It's like dedicating that REM song to your girlfriend because you never listened to the damn words.

Why can't the radio stop playing "Waiting on the World to Change"?

Ha! JZ has heard me rail against that song ad nauseum. What a lameass motherfuckin' stonerific can't get off your ass passive protest song.

The John Mayer song that I usually rail against is "Daughters," but this one also really rankles.

The John Mayer song that I usually rail against is "Daughters,"

Totally barf-inducing.

Actually, does Obama *have* a song? Like Clinton had "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow"? (Which, for the past 8 years, has broken my heart every time I hear it on the radio.)

Actually, does Obama *have* a song? Like Clinton had "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow"?

"The Rising" by Bruce Springsteen is the one I keep hearing.

he does represent a large chunk of the populace.

This may annoy some folks.

Warren represents a lot of people. In reading other sites, several evangelical types were gobsmacked that Obama was having him at the Inaugeration and they actually paused to re-think they're gut reaction to Obama.

Tomorrow he's being inaugerated as President of the United States, not President of the People who Voted for Me and, Oh Yeah, Those Other People, too. So it's time he starts acting like it.

I'm sorry it hurts you that Warren is there. But we can't continue the policies of rewarding only the people who agree with us. There's a huge gulf between the two ideological sections of this country, and the bridge isn't going to be built if we ignore the building materials that can reach the other side.

We can't change them if we don't talk to them, and we can't talk to them if we shun them.

Also, while the idea of Satanism being the antithesis of Christianity is there, atheism is more prevalent, and as such I think taken more seriously.

This is true. What you're saying makes sense. And I'm sorry this has happened to you.

In fact, now might be a good time for me to apologize in general on behalf of Christians. I'm sorry, world!

On the other religion topic, I was wondering if there was someone you guys saw who would have been a better choice to give the invocation, who would have still appealed to the across the aisle demographic Obama's trying to reach out to? I know you're not supposed to be the experts on pastors in a religion you don't subscribe to. But if it helps for perspective at all, I had heard lots of what Rick Warren had to say about lots of topics, and I hadn't heard the views that were problematic until they came up here. So if it helps any, that particular message has not (IME) been a huge part of his overall preaching.

Like others, I want to make it clear I'm not supporting what he said at all, and I voted against the AZ equivalent of Prop 8. Just that as far as hatemongering goes, I hadn't been exposed to it from him, as part of his target demographic.

Anyway! Since I'm breaking my rule about not talking about religion and politics online, I might as well go ahead and say I'm so excited about the inauguration! Well, I'm more basically still hopeful about the administration. But I'm ready for it to be on, and for us to be done with Bushes.

Yeah, echoing hatred of the song "Daughters" -- just awful.

On the other religion topic, I was wondering if there was someone you guys saw who would have been a better choice to give the invocation, who would have still appealed to the across the aisle demographic Obama's trying to reach out to? I know you're not supposed to be the experts on pastors in a religion you don't subscribe to. But if it helps for perspective at all, I had heard lots of what Rick Warren had to say about lots of topics, and I hadn't heard the views that were problematic until they came up here. So if it helps any, that particular message has not (IME) been a huge part of his overall preaching.

I can't think of one. Warren, I feel, is possibly teachable. The rest, not so much.