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Spike's Bitches 43: Who am I kidding? I love to brag.  

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beekaytee - Jan 10, 2009 4:42:49 pm PST #7490 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Congrats on the new kitty-son Nora. Marley's a lucky duck.

Java, adding an adult dog is SO personality dependant that there really is no 'how does this work.' I'd suggest looking at dogs in foster homes first. That way, you know more about their personalities becuase the caregivers have more intimate connection to them. Plus, you can arrange non-commited play dates to see how the pooches get on.

I've thought, many times, about getting Bartleby a dog of his own. In one case, I brought Hank, an all black version of the Bboy (so cute) home for an orientation. I was all about that dog! He immediately peed and exhibited dominant behavior. Bartleby is definitely a bottom and he just looked so stressed out. For a variety of reasons, I passed on Hank. He got adopted by a wonderful woman I know. She's now dealing with the fact that Hank has rage syndrome and can't be around other dogs. I feel bad for her, at the same time I am grateful to have dodged that bullet.

On the other hand, our friend Pony, who is a pit-mix HATES all other dogs except for Bartleby and two others. Through a series of events, her family adopted Gary, a Mountain Cur mix and I have to tell you, Pony is a changed bitch. She adores Gary and treats him like her baby. She still looks at every other dog as meat...it's sometimes horrifying...but she is so much happier at home with the new dog.

You just never know!


Nora Deirdre - Jan 10, 2009 4:50:33 pm PST #7491 of 10000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Marley has been making forays out from under the bed, mostly with Tom. I think he's going to be OK. What a love. Taz has been sitting in front of the door patiently, somewhat confused. He's not upset, so that's good.


sarameg - Jan 10, 2009 4:57:22 pm PST #7492 of 10000

Nora, I wish you the best of luck. Were my cathold only MK and Loki, we'd be golden. But I have my beloved Devi, who still thinks she should be an only cat looooong after MK arrived. Honestly, IME boycats buddy up and adjust, especially if they are loveys. Girlcats, NSM (especially if they are bitchy cranky little ones I identify so much with.) So you should be golden. Just let it happen slow if there is any aggression.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 10, 2009 4:58:57 pm PST #7493 of 10000
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Their personalities are not aggressive, so I'm optimistic about their getting along.


beekaytee - Jan 10, 2009 5:00:54 pm PST #7494 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Years ago, I read a book on 'cat psychology' and the one thing that jumped out at me is that we can sometimes work too hard to orchestrate our pets' ineractions. I was introducing my new kitten to the cat of the house we had just moved into. Saturday (all 26 pounds of her) was left behind by the woman who'd lived in the house for 40 years and was entering a facility.

Sabastia, the kitten (I'd named her after a Shakesperean character until I discovered that she was not a he and dropped the n) was terrified and disappeared for 3 days.

I felt like a huge failure as a cat mom, but the author put it very simply...'their relationship with each other is more important than their relationship with you and only they can work it out.'

In the end, they got on just fine and Sabastia grew up to be Saturday's equal.


Typo Boy - Jan 10, 2009 5:06:09 pm PST #7495 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

{{Brenda}}. No words, but I know that this is helping a family member pass on.


Atropa - Jan 10, 2009 5:15:53 pm PST #7496 of 10000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Nora, what everyone else said about letting the kitties figure out their own dynamics is spot on. The only advice I have to offer is 1) adding some drops of Rescue Remedy to their water dish will help them be a little more mellow toward each other, and 2) the Feliway plug-ins seemed to help when we were trying to get Trinian (very dim, very crazy girlkitty) to adapt to the presence of the boykitties.


SailAweigh - Jan 10, 2009 5:18:23 pm PST #7497 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

IME boycats buddy up and adjust, especially if they are loveys.

Oh, yeah. My two boys have gotten quite close. They don't cuddle, but they'll lay side by side and Elliot will groom Tucker. Never the other way around, though. Despite being half Elliot's weight and a real chicken, Tucker knows he's got seniority. The younger cat must do the grooming.


Barb - Jan 10, 2009 5:38:08 pm PST #7498 of 10000
“Not dead yet!”

With the dogs, it was interesting. I knew, from speaking with the foster mom and watching Pisces interact with the other dogs in the foster care that she'd be fine in our house. We have a really interesting dynamic: Mooshu started out as a total alpha and tried to be very dominant until I established myself as his alpha. Jasmine, as a puppy, was dominant to Mooshu, who by this point, was the mellowest dog on the planet (a characteristic of his breed) while Pisces and Jasmine take turns being dominant with each other, but Pisces is definitely submissive to Mooshu.

However, they all recognize me as their pack leader. Or as my sister says, "They're your shadows. Wherever you go, they follow."


beekaytee - Jan 10, 2009 5:57:05 pm PST #7499 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Barb is doin' it right!

And Jilli is spot on. Rescue Remedy is an excellent resource and, while I've never used the Feliway plug ins, the pet store I do the doggy lama workshops in sells a good number of them. I hear good things. Covering those bases couldn't hurt, in any case.