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'War Stories'


Spike's Bitches 43: Who am I kidding? I love to brag.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Connie Neil - Jan 09, 2009 6:40:27 am PST #7381 of 10000
brillig

only the Buffistas would raise this issue.

Precision of terminology is important! Plus, it's cool.


Trudy Booth - Jan 09, 2009 6:52:17 am PST #7382 of 10000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Is there such a thing as a preplica?


Vortex - Jan 09, 2009 6:53:51 am PST #7383 of 10000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Precision of terminology is important!

Yeah, it's like when I was on the cruise and people were calling me a cougar because this 23 year old had a little crush, and I debated because I thought that a key component of being a cougar was that they were doing the chasing, and since I was just minding my own business, I was not a cougar.


Shir - Jan 09, 2009 6:55:42 am PST #7384 of 10000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Is there such a thing as a preplica?

If not, there should be.


quester - Jan 09, 2009 7:06:34 am PST #7385 of 10000
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Is there such a thing as a preplica?

There is now!


Connie Neil - Jan 09, 2009 8:08:58 am PST #7386 of 10000
brillig

Is there such a thing as a preplica?

It sounds like a deformity. "I'm sorry, Mrs. Whozit, your son has preplica, but he can live a perfectly normal life."


Miracleman - Jan 09, 2009 8:24:51 am PST #7387 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

"I'm sorry, Mrs. Whozit, your son has preplica, but he can live a perfectly normal life."

"He will, however, never be able to play the sousaphone ever again."

"So...there's a silver lining."


Glamcookie - Jan 09, 2009 8:34:27 am PST #7388 of 10000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I go today at 1 for my post-op appt. I'm a little nervous that he's going to pull the tape off ( shudder). Ow! I am doing really well now, though. I'm off the Vicodin, just taking a couple of ibuprofen every few hours. Ready to return to work on Monday.


Ginger - Jan 09, 2009 8:42:05 am PST #7389 of 10000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Glad you're feeling better, GC. Tape ~ma.

In the further adventures of UPS Sucks, I got the shipping number and looked up the package.

01/08/2009 7:34 a.m. – Out for delivery

01/08/2009 8:00 a.m. – I get robocalled

01/08/2009 8:13 a.m. – Incorrect routing at UPS facility / the package was missorted at the hub. It has been rerouted to the correct destination site.

Fifteen minutes after the robot tells me the package will be delivered between 8 and 7, the computer knows it's been rerouted. Do they call? Do they sent flowers?

01/08/2009 10:48 p.m. Arrival scan Roswell

01/09/2009 1:03 a.m. Out for delivery

So now it's wait another whole day, and at some point I have to go pick up a prescription.

UPS: Made of fail.


Shir - Jan 09, 2009 8:47:33 am PST #7390 of 10000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

OK, Typo Boy, now I have time to reply. Since it was 182 posts ago, I'm copy-pasting your original post here (just for convenience):

Shir, what gave me the impression that my posts bother you was where you said that "what bothers me about your posts". OK I take it you meant what you disagreed with rather than that they disturbed you. So sorry for the misunderstanding.

Sorry! I'm pretty sure I meant "what bothered me about your posts". Past tense, and I mostly mean your latest post. And yeah, I meant bother as disagree, not as if is your arguments upsets me.

And in terms of the right path, talking is good, avoiding war crimes is good stopping collective punishment is good, in general avoid creating ten armed opponents for every one your nation defeats. Beyond that, I think that negotiations for a two state solution could be more successful than most people think. The reason for pessimism is that the usual story is that the Palestinians spat on a generous proposal. But there is a lot of evidence that the failure of Oslo was a joint Israeli/Palestinian screwup. It is a lot harder with Hamas than Arafat of course, but there is evidence of some openess even there. Note that saying it was a joint screwup is optimisic, not pessimistic. If it was all or mostly the fault of the Palestians and that would be an almost impossible situtation to remedy. If there were big Israeli screwups then that means there are things Israel can fix.

Well, for start, I think you're right at the start, but a little bit overgeneralizing. Because if bombing civilians as a war crime, then Hamas and Fatah are doing so for the past 8 years. All in all, I find it extremely disturbing that wars are being held with great involvement of civilian population.
Also, I don't think Oslo was a failure. The thing that most people find easy to forget about this, is that it was just the first step of a long process. And the process stopped after that very first step, and then the situation went hellish. Not to mention, Rabin's assassination. I don't think that it's harder with Hamas than it was with Arafat. Anyway, as for Palestinians spitting on a generous proposal, it all goes way back to the U.N. original plan for dividing Palestine, back in 1947. The Jews then (it feels wrong to call them Israelis in 1947), of course, won more land than anyone expected them to ever have.

Israeli policy for a long time has been all sticks and no carrots. And punishing Arafat got Israel Hamas. Continuing not to deal with Hamas may result in the leadership of the Palestinians in a few years being Islamic Jihad.

Yes, Israel is very much responsible to the rise and fall of many terror organizations, though I think it tried to "punish" Fatah, which brought the Hamas the winning of the elections. Israel now, of course, trying to deal with Hamas by eliminate it - not that I believe is possible, or a good idea. Islamic Jihad, btw, is active in the Strip, West Bank and South Lebanon as is. There's way too much organizations, knowing who's in charge is a mess, and as we saw just few days ago in South Lebanon, not all of them obey the "main authority".

Not that any of this is a valid reason for the mess these days. I asked a pretty-much-moderate cab driver who drove me yesterday in Be'er Sheva if they're not tired of it all by now, because I'm young and sick of all of this. Violence will bring nothing but more violence. He just sighed and rhetorically asked "yeah, but what can you do? No matter what, the terror doesn't stop".

And I find it a global problem, not only Middle Eastern one. Hell (and for one thing), my country's fighting with weapons provided by U.S, Palestinians fighting with weapons provided by Iran and Syria (which came from Russia, at least partly).