You shoot fishers who try to take their boats out to fish.

I'm pretty certain that Shir isn't doing the shooting, so maybe this could be phrased differently.

I know I don't want to be made synonymous with my country's military actions.

I usually add some ripe bananas to the mix, they add moisture, don't they?

They do.

Also, don't lower the temperature. Just lessen the cooking time.

How mini are the pans? If they're say comparable to muffins, then find a muffin recipe and cook them about that length of time.

With the added bananas, I think you'll be fine adding cocoa.

Don't change the oven temperature, but change the cooking time to something approximating muffins -- if a loaf pan takes 45-50 minutes, I'd test after 20.

Thanks, everyone! Now, I'm off to the market. Wish me luck not killing anyone.

Typo, I agree with you 100% about that only talking can solve anything and it's stupid as hell the sides refuse to talk most of the time.

However, and I can't tell you how strange it is for me to take this side of the debate:

It is quite true that Israel denies Gazans food, milk, medicine, seed or fertilizer for agriculture.

Israel also provides Gaza this things. Not all, not 100%, but it controls the ways and gives Gaza fuel and all of these things.

lifting or weakening the siege would be a good start.

Seeing this would be wonderful. Seeing this and surviving the next months without being killed/seeing family and friends die would be Utopian.

You shoot fishers who try to take their boats out to fish

I agree it's not right, but, as information from my sis goes: fishermen who also, btw, collecting intelligence and information for upcoming actions.

Without any relation to the size of IDF, it's still can't protect from a lot of terror actions: suicide bombings, rocket launching. I would understand Hamas more if they would have direct their ammo against military (and when my sis is serving, it takes a lot from me to type these words), but the fact is that they are shooting civilians. And Both my sister and dad said more than once that if that were them on the other side of the border, they would have become Sha'iyds (terrorists; martyrs) long time ago. Also, the refusal to accept Israel as a legitimate country to exist probably doesn't help much either.

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I'm pretty certain that Shir isn't doing the shooting, so maybe this could be phrased differently.

Oh, I understood that part. And yes, I don't agree with a lot of my country is doing, but for the short term, it does protect me. For the long term, I question its logic, very very much.

Luck, sj!!

I am supposedly on vacation now, but since I work from home, I'm still answering emails and stuff. Ah well.

Also, since the snowpocalpyse, I am still waiting on at least three packages I ordered that should've been here at the end of last week. I'm really hoping it's the weather's fault, and not that someone swiped them.

Also, big hugs to Sean. Yeesh. I can't believe 2008 is kicking you in the ass one more time.

And just in time for the conversation, here's what my sis did today: link.

I'm wondering how many years of therapy would take to make her cope with all of this death once she'll be out.

I'm pretty certain that Shir isn't doing the shooting, so maybe this could be phrased differently.

Yes, I was very uncomfortable reading that phrasing. Though it doesn't seem to bother Shir any so I guess there's nothing much (for me) to say about it anymore!

cereal to add: Sean, I was talking to my grandmother the other day and it sounded like she had a similar thing with the brown vomit stuff, and she recovered fine. Can't speak to the seizures though.

I really meant Israel, not Shir personally. Corrected above.

And in terms of recognizing Israel - yeah, Hamas, and Fatah too do a lot of stuff that is stupid and wrong. The rocket attacks are wrong on many levels. I actually think the argument that they are not aimed at disputed terrorities is not the overwhelming thing wrong with them. After all most Israeli attacks are aimed at disputed territories. But, in spite of nonsensical excuses otherwise, they are aimed at civilians not at military targets. And they are not even aimed at civilians to accomplish military goals (not that this would be an excuse. They really are terrorism in the sense of the word as originally defined rather than the expanded version used by the Bush admin. They are attacks against civilians for the purpose of inflicting death and suffering in hopes the civilian population will be terrified and give in.

In spite of this, and other things, Israel does a lot m ore damage to civilians than Hamas. And Hamas has pretty mcuh said they would extend the truce if Israel would just reduce the siege. In terms of Isreal providin food and medicine - yeah after pretty much keeping out all other sources it provides a trickle. Basically it lets in just enough to avoid actual genocide. I'm sorry, but not actually keeping all food and supplies out, and thus not actually exterminating the Palestinian population does not Isreal moral points.

The main thing though is this. Israel is the regional superpower. Israel is overwhelmingly in control of the situation, even if it can't completely protect its population, its survival as a nation is not in danger other from its own self-destruction. Terrorists pose a criminal threat to Israel. They can kill and create suffering. They can't wipe out Israel; Israel can't be invaded. Israel can't be cut off from food or supplies. Israel has 90% of the power now, and that gives it more responsibility.

Oh and about the fishers. "Intelligence" is the vague type of excuse that can justify anything. These fringe groups (and it is often fringe not mainstream Hamas committing the worst acts) get intelligence from Syrian and Arab allies with access to satellite data. Does any additional information provided by a minority of these fishers really dangerous enough to justify destroying a whole key industry.

One other comment that Egypt used more violence to contain the breakout from Gaza than Israel does. Yeah, to comply with the requirements of their treaty with Israel, reinforced by threats from Israel to cut off all supplies to Gaza from the Israeli side if Egypt did not start complying with the treaty by containing the breakout.