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Pix - Dec 21, 2008 12:45:12 pm PST #5307 of 10000
The status is NOT quo.

Gris, I think getting a love poem of any kind rocks, but I'd epecially love it handwritten so I could keep it and reread it.

ETA: But really, what Fay said is key.


Gris - Dec 21, 2008 12:50:46 pm PST #5308 of 10000
Hey. New board.

If either a or b are in doubt, the whole business becomes one mighty cringe.

Ha. I kind of like bad poems, actually, though I can see (b) being pretty important at least.

This isn't something I'm actually considering, by the way. I was just having a conversation about love poems yesterday, and was thinking about how they could fit into modern society. What I think is especially interesting is the idea of love-poems-as-courting, especially in my generation, where courting seems, unfortunately, pretty dead. And letter-sending even more so.


Fay - Dec 21, 2008 12:54:19 pm PST #5309 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I am very fond of Carol Ann Duffy's poem Valentine, which I was given by a wooer. Or at least - she gave me the book, but that poem in particular. Lovely poem.


Gris - Dec 21, 2008 12:57:32 pm PST #5310 of 10000
Hey. New board.

Oh, that's lovely. I wish I had that gift for metaphor and imagery.


Pix - Dec 21, 2008 1:00:26 pm PST #5311 of 10000
The status is NOT quo.

I think courting still exists, in odd ways. Email and IM may not seem traditionally romantic, but I think they really can be. Not to say that I would turn down a little traditional romance, mind you, but I think the state of romance today still largely rests on the individual. Also, given that traditional courting stemmed mainly from the fact that women were so rigidly controlled by their families and therefore had to be courted from afar, I think I'd rather have my independence.

ION, please, someone help me get out of my head. I can't shake these blues for no good reason.

Oh, and Tep, I'm so sorry you're dealing with this, but try not to beat youself up too much. Earlier this year I was on my third nasty antibiotic for my pneumonia, and I made the mistake if taking the last pill right before I ate instead of after. This resulted in me vomiting all over the inside of Drew's truck, and as I wept in misery and shame, he cleaned everything up and got me home. It's awful, but it's also a sign of a partner who will stand by you. Hang in there.


Pix - Dec 21, 2008 1:03:29 pm PST #5312 of 10000
The status is NOT quo.

Because it deserves its own post, Shir, I have no advice, but I do have as much compassion and peace-ma as I can spare heading your way.


Gris - Dec 21, 2008 1:22:10 pm PST #5313 of 10000
Hey. New board.

I think courting still exists, in odd ways.

I suppose it does, and I've certainly engaged in my fair share of e-mail and IM romance. Maybe what keeps it distinct from my vision of "courting" is the way we tend to downplay the whole process. It's the very rare modern man (outside of the movies) who's willing to say, with or without poetry, "We haven't known each other long, but you amaze me. Since we met, I've been unable to think of anything but you. You are beautiful and funny and inspire me to great heights. If I could see you every day, I would."

Instead we say "I had fun. Want to hang out again on Tuesday?" and pretend that we're casual about it, even when we're not. Because coming on too strong and having strong feelings without rational consideration is a crime in the Sex and the City generation, and any statement of such feelings may be construed as a sleazy seductive technique.

It's possible I'm wrong, and just don't know how to do it right.


Laga - Dec 21, 2008 1:28:19 pm PST #5314 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I think it all comes down to whether the attention is desired. If I fancied someone I would love to hear their terrible poetry. There is a chance that an amazingly good poem might change my mind about someone I thought I wasn't attracted to. But the only way a poem could be bad enough to turn me off on someone would be if it revealed something about their character that I hadn't realized I'm opposed to.


Laga - Dec 21, 2008 1:31:26 pm PST #5315 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Kristin- sending you no-more-blues ~ma.


Glamcookie - Dec 21, 2008 1:50:03 pm PST #5316 of 10000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

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