And, seekrit message for omnis: you're so much a better person than I am for blushing. Hell, I love our show, and the encouraging you or any other Buffista to get out (or stay in) and get some. You're just responding better than others to my teasing.
River: I didn't think you'd come for me. Simon: Well, you're a dummy.
'Serenity'
Spike's Bitches 43: Who am I kidding? I love to brag.
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Shir - Dec 17, 2008 9:59:13 am PST #4810 of 10000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
Barb - Dec 17, 2008 10:06:18 am PST #4811 of 10000
“Not dead yet!”
Target's evil.
I succumbed to the awfulness and bought the sing-a-long Mama Mia! DVD.
I don't CARE if Pierce Brosnan sounds like a goat in heat while singing. I'm going to pretend I'm cavorting on a Greek island. Hopefully one sans riots.
meara - Dec 17, 2008 10:12:18 am PST #4812 of 10000
OK, help me out here Buffistas: I am not good with the explaining. But I know there's gotta be a website out there that is.
Last night I was with some people. Friends of friends. And one of them, straight up, told me a racist joke.
A joke about black people.
I was like "....you did not just tell me that joke. Please don't tell jokes like that around me ever again. I don't think that's funny. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and ASSUME that you are not telling that joke to be racist, but please don't ever do that again"
...AND THEN I HAD TO GET INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH SOME FRIENDS ABOUT WHY RACIST JOKES ARE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER HUMOR.
About why I would think it's OK for the lesbians in the room to tell a joke about a second date and a UHaul, and think THAT's funny, but NOT think it's OK for the white girl to tell a joke about black people to an entirely white audience.
WHAT THE FUCK?
I don't even remember what kind of justifications they tried to give (other than...trying to make me seem uptight and humorless?), but...
Emily - Dec 17, 2008 10:16:20 am PST #4813 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Oh boy. Somebody needs to read up on white privilege, for one thing...
Vortex - Dec 17, 2008 10:25:03 am PST #4814 of 10000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
About why I would think it's OK for the lesbians in the room to tell a joke about a second date and a UHaul, and think THAT's funny, but NOT think it's OK for the white girl to tell a joke about black people to an entirely white audience.
I would submit that the audience isn't even the problem. I've had people tell racist jokes when I was standing there ("Oh, um, I didn't mean you" @@)
So, were they saying that it was okay because there were no black people there, or that the joke wasn't racist?
Fay - Dec 17, 2008 10:28:34 am PST #4815 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
OMG.
Somebody needs to send meara better lesbians, stat!
Laga - Dec 17, 2008 10:28:43 am PST #4816 of 10000
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
yuck meara. I've ended friendships over similar stuff.
Trudy Booth - Dec 17, 2008 10:31:50 am PST #4817 of 10000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Somebody needs to send meara better lesbians, stat!
Sure, but by New Years they'll have fully integrated with the native population and all be exes of exes.
Sparky1 - Dec 17, 2008 10:34:07 am PST #4818 of 10000
Librarian Warlord
Ouch, meara.
I don't know that there's a website, but if people can't understand that jokes made to humiliate a race/group or that perpetuate stereotypes aren't funny, then I would have been left speechless, too.
meara - Dec 17, 2008 10:41:21 am PST #4819 of 10000
So, were they saying that it was okay because there were no black people there, or that the joke wasn't racist?
...I think more of the latter, actually. I think they were trying to argue that it was some kind of "everyone ought to be able to tell all the jokes" sort of thing. And that "hey, all the funny jokes are based in stereotypes" thing (thus the discussion of the lesbians/UHaul joke, and why is THAT joke funny and OK, and not the one the other person told (which...also just wasn't funny. It was just stupid. If it had been that sort of "ooh, damn, that's kinda funny, except not when YOU are telling it, and not to THIS audience...." it might have been a different situation...hers was just...stupid. And unfunny. She was not EVEN, like...repeating a good Chris Rock joke or anything). And why is it OK for one person to tell jokes like that and not another person, and where do you draw the line, and blah blah blah...
...the sort of intellectual discussion about privilege and grey areas that is hard to have late at night in a noisy bar. But also that although I have read extensively about, and totally GROK, I have a very hard time VERBALIZING.
...am I making any sense here?
[edit: I was hoping someone could link me to a discussion of like, privilege, and that sort of shit, with talking points I could be like "BLAH!" next time]