We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


Spike's Bitches 43: Who am I kidding? I love to brag.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


beekaytee - Dec 09, 2008 8:47:46 am PST #3778 of 10000
Compassionately intolerant

Windsparrow is wise like an owl, or you know, those three guys riding from the west.


meara - Dec 09, 2008 8:59:42 am PST #3779 of 10000

really needs to deal with the fact that the reason her relationship with the girl in question didn't fly in her favor is largely to do with whatever is between the two of them.

This is why I only feel BUT so guilty (because they did continue to go on dates AFTER girl and I hooked up, I was not stopping that at all). Because yes, there's a certain amount of "bros before hos" going on here, and not poaching on your friend's girl or whatever, but also...MOVING OUT OF TOWN.

But part of her "first talking to me in over two months" was "Why haven't you emailed me, I feel like that means you're not my friend". And I'm like "Um...I thought I was supposed to let YOU decide when to email, since you're the one who screamed at me and de-friended me?" So the ignoring her thing...ugh. I just don't even know how to respond to what she's said.


Toddson - Dec 09, 2008 9:02:58 am PST #3780 of 10000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

OK, I've been all doom and gloom recently, but there are good things happening and good people (aside from the Buffistas) out there.

Notable exceptions - with the Inauguration coming up, DC is pretty much booked up and the hotels have raised their prices. One man purchased a $1 million package from the Marriott ... and he's giving the 300 rooms to people who can't afford hotel rooms, veterans, etc. It'll include the room, food, he's paying for formal wear for a ball, they'll be on an enclosed heated balcony right on the parade route. Other people, having seen things on Craigslist, are opening up their homes to strangers and letting them stay with them for that time period. (This is exceptional because a lot of people are charging thousands for a one-week stay in their homes.) I relize these are little things, but it's still nice to read.


WindSparrow - Dec 09, 2008 9:19:16 am PST #3781 of 10000
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

or you know, those three guys riding from the west.

And now I've got cowboys riding camels in my head.

meara, I don't know how close the two of you were, so I don't have a where to start discerning how much effort to advise putting into putting up with her crap. But I really do not like what this pattern of behavior says about this woman. Warning bells are going off. Not that I'm thinking dangerous stalker, but more like emotional vampire, narcissism rampant. I'm sure she has a good side that I have no conception of, which means she may well be worth the bother to you. But if you decide you do not need this kind of energy in your life, it would not be insane to stop responding. Whether it would also be sane to offer her a one-time explanation of "I'm withdrawing to spare any more difficulty for you," or not, I can't tell.


brenda m - Dec 09, 2008 9:22:31 am PST #3782 of 10000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The problem is no matter who's at fault or who's behaving like a whiny baby, it still makes it awkward for meara and others no matter how she decides to respond. Which sucks mightily.


Burrell - Dec 09, 2008 9:22:59 am PST #3783 of 10000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

meara, from over here it sounds like she's working through any number of issues (the move not working out, the relationship not working out) and she's found in you a useful object for projecting her anger and frustrations. In which case there's not much you can do, except identify your own boundaries (ie your comment "I only feel so guilty") and accept that she's going to be angry for a while. And that she'll probably get over it eventually.


meara - Dec 09, 2008 9:29:04 am PST #3784 of 10000

Well, we were good friends for my time in Seattle. And I do think she's a good person--she's just messed up and hurting right now, and needs to get right with herself. That's separate from me or the situation with the girl (and was going on before any of that).

But also, this being a small small neighborhood, and an even smaller lesbian community, there's no real way to avoid each other. :)

What Burrell and brenda both said--she's working shit out and going to be angry, and hopefully eventually be over that...but it's going to be hella awkward in the meantime, and I'm not looking forward to that. I was sad to see her move because I figured maybe we'd lose touch completely while she "got over" it...but there was going to be less awkward running into each other too.


Vortex - Dec 09, 2008 9:31:29 am PST #3785 of 10000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Meara, you just have to take the high road here. Keep doing what you're doing. If you see her, say hello, but otherwise wait for her to initiate conversation. Keep the PDA to a minimum if she's around, but don't feel like you and the girl can't be near or touch each other. In other words, be sensitive, but don't let her control you.


DavidS - Dec 09, 2008 9:32:46 am PST #3786 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But also, this being a small small neighborhood, and an even smaller lesbian community, there's no real way to avoid each other. :)

She needs to hit the gym all winter, get a new haircut in the spring and come out fabulous. I am so over her!

How old is she anyway? She's got the emotional maturity of an apple tartlet.

Honestly, meara, I think your offense is so slight as to be unworthy of two months of hand-wringing.


Calli - Dec 09, 2008 10:56:03 am PST #3787 of 10000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Timelies, all. I'm back from Senegal, with 40 hours sans sleep, and a blossoming head cold. De-germed~ma to those who need it.

ETA: Senegal was fabulous, but now I'm on the poke-vaguely-at-the-furniture stage of homecoming.