Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Oct 30, 2008 6:33:43 am PDT #7398 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Anne, swung back atcha.

Sox, yes, I was supposed to be there last week, in fact. But the NDA project went so over due to all of the software problems, that I didn't get to go (couldn't register/book flights until NDA was done, and then it was too late). I am still hoping to get back East, but am waiting for another project to be futher defined (timelines wise) before I can try and schedule it. I really want to do a 4-5 trip back East hitting both New York and Philly. Also, I am really spread thin financially right now, so I have to factor that in. Without work paying for me to come back East, it's a little harder to swing.

However, I am going to a conference in San Diego next week, and my consolation prize (which is pretty damned sweet) is getting to see ND, Kristin, Cupcake Goth and her adorable husband.


amych - Oct 30, 2008 6:36:14 am PDT #7399 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Maryland is planning on returning to paper ballots for the 2010 election cycle.

Are you on touchscreens now? We've had the scan-tron kind of paper ballots for years, and I can't see why any place wouldn't see it as the best of both worlds. All the advantages of computerized systems for instant counting, with the actual original marked-by-the-voter's-own-hand ballot right there if a backup is needed.


sarameg - Oct 30, 2008 6:39:46 am PDT #7400 of 10001

Yeah. There was a big overhaul to get the whole state on touchscreen, with no paper trail...and now they're chucking it. Apparently, they'll still be paying for the touchscreens years after they stop using them.

I'm all for it.


Gudanov - Oct 30, 2008 6:39:59 am PDT #7401 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

We've had the scan-tron kind of paper ballots for years, and I can't see why any place wouldn't see it as the best of both worlds. All the advantages of computerized systems for instant counting, with the actual original marked-by-the-voter's-own-hand ballot right there if a backup is needed.

I have read that this is the system that is really catching on right now. I've had that system for years and I really like it.


sarameg - Oct 30, 2008 6:40:50 am PDT #7402 of 10001

I think that's what we're moving to.


javachik - Oct 30, 2008 6:44:44 am PDT #7403 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

A nice little anecdote for some of you worried about Prop 8 here in California:

You might be heartened to know that one of my staff, who is registered to vote for the first time since he became a citizen (we talk a lot of politics at work, so he overhears) is a fundamentalist Christian. He's a sweet guy, pretty bright, but tends to make up his mind about stuff with a naive approach. I do know he's voting for Obama, and yesterday he asked me about the wording of Prop 8 (I had printed out the voter guides for a bunch of people in the office who had registered late and not yet received the guides). I have to be really careful, because I am his manager, and I also don't want to offend his religious opinions. Anyway, he asked me "why, if the CA Supreme Court had already decided this, it was on the ballot - wouldn't it just go back and forth every 4 years?" So I showed him the wording of the proposition, and how it would actually amend the State constitution. His response astounded me: "well just because I believe marriage is for man and wife, doesn't mean I think the constitution should be changed. It's not like gays are trying to say that marriage should only be between gay people, right? Because that would be wrong. So if they're not trying to take away my rights, why do I care about taking away theirs?"

I almost fainted with joy. And maybe he's not the only one.


Jessica - Oct 30, 2008 6:45:07 am PDT #7404 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

AFAIK, my district is still using paper ballots with the old-fashioned kaTHUNK lever machines.

If we ever switch to an electronic system, my one request is that it makes that noise when you press the VOTE button.


lisah - Oct 30, 2008 6:46:21 am PDT #7405 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I miss the kaTHUNK.


sarameg - Oct 30, 2008 6:49:03 am PDT #7406 of 10001

I never got a kaTHUNK (though I remember it from my parents voting.) First time I voted was the bweedloop.

The touch screens...I don't recall them making any noise. Maybe just a beep.


amych - Oct 30, 2008 6:51:36 am PDT #7407 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Oh! And you can handle way more people with each voting machine, since you don't need a machine for each voter -- given the role that unexpected lines have played in the last few cycles, that's huge even aside from the cost savings when gov'ts are having to buy new machines.

I am, apparently, in election technology fandom. And nobody's writing good fic.