Inara: I think she looks adorable. Mal: Yeah, but I never said it.

'Shindig'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Oct 29, 2008 3:06:24 pm PDT #7336 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

This is genuinely confusing to me because I've seen so many parents who integrate their children's needs into their own and everyone gets what they need. Rather than losing something by having kids, they seem only to see parenting as gaining something in their lives.

Good for them. Speaking just for myself, becoming a parent did not magically transform me into a completely new and better person with no need for personal time or space.

As Plei says, the pros outweigh the cons by a pretty wide margin, but I can count the number of times I've been alone in my own home in the past year on one hand. The number of times I've been able to say a spontaneous yes to after-work drinks with friends. The number of movies I've seen in a theatre.

Those of us who remember being self-sufficient on trips probably were, but we're not gonna remember how we were at 20 months or 4 years old when we needed the most attention. There's a big difference between under-fives and older kids.

A *huge* yes to this. I remember being self-sufficient on 18-hour car trips too, but since all my memories include at least 2 other kids in the car, I'm clearly not remembering the years when I was a toddler with the attention span of a goldfish with ADD and a bladder the size of a leaky peanut.


Connie Neil - Oct 29, 2008 3:08:45 pm PDT #7337 of 10001
brillig

Having had Hubby's health go to hell these past few years, I'm more grateful than ever that I'm not dealing with young adults at this time in my life. I would never have been able to properly cope with both teenagers and a man whose life expectations are going to hell.

Excuse me while I express my devout and sincere thanks to a merciful universe again.


Sue - Oct 29, 2008 3:09:41 pm PDT #7338 of 10001
hip deep in pie

We had our first cat on cat encounter. It was an accident, but I decided to let it play out. It did not go well. Jake was not thrilled to see a new cat. Clio was as cool as a cucumber.

Now Jake is growing and hissing at me...and hiding. I'm glad he's declawed. I've forgotten how stressful this is.


msbelle - Oct 29, 2008 3:10:56 pm PDT #7339 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I was trying to watch Obama, but mac wants full attention, so I am Tivoing.

for those of you on flickr or facebook - a new mac video is up.


shrift - Oct 29, 2008 3:16:57 pm PDT #7340 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Those are fine, it's the touchscreens in Virgin planes that bug me. People do not seem to get that jabbing the screen=moving the headrest.

I don't remember which airline I was on, but on a recent flight I had to stand up and loom over the back of my seat to terrorize a boy who was JABBING REALLY HARD on a touch screen video game. I just wanted to read my book without head trauma.


Sue - Oct 29, 2008 3:22:26 pm PDT #7341 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I think the poor kitty is scared and feeling threatened. He sort of lunged at me, but totally backed down when I stood my ground. Then went back under the chair he was hiding under.


sarameg - Oct 29, 2008 3:24:35 pm PDT #7342 of 10001

Ah, Sue. I'm sorry you are joining me in in the cat wars. It does get better (though mine are still being separated at all times when awake.) MK and Loki get on fine. Devi....well, they are engaging in play (Loki) and...well, she can't eat him...under the door.

This relationship will take while. Devi's asleep at my feet, Loki asleep down my fleece and MK is trying to find a spot on the futon.

Raising kids take effort. In different ways to different people, and with different exchanges that have different values to the individual. For every person who loves the newborn phase as I do, there's one who finds it rather a dull phase, dominated by just keeping this creature fed and clothed (like my dad does.) He loves his grandkids (and kids) no less in their newborn phase, just finds the joys of older ages more personally satisfying. Teens still make me want to hide.


sarameg - Oct 29, 2008 3:26:44 pm PDT #7343 of 10001

Sue, just spend time quietly with him and then engage with play or food with the other cats gone. Loki is quite intimidated by Dev, and when he's been freaked after an encounter, I just have to be unthreatening and available and he gets over it.


Jesse - Oct 29, 2008 3:26:53 pm PDT #7344 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Huh -- my former Big Boss just showed up on the local news channel. Random!

And I now realize I skipped the Obama advertorial completely.


quester - Oct 29, 2008 3:28:46 pm PDT #7345 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

i'm watching it right now!

I'm sure it will be up on the web soon.