Very convincing. Makes me completely want to put myself under government control. Please take me to where you can make me unconscious and naked.

Riley ,'Help'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


beth b - Oct 29, 2008 2:37:03 pm PDT #7325 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

My father was a pilot for PanAm -- so I was flying from a very young age. All my grandparents were down south -- emporia , VA was the half way point -- some times we did it in two days some times an 18 hour shot. I don't remember when we were really young -- but I do remember when my sister was a baby. New toys -- like colorforms just for the trip. New books. Family song fests. licensee plate games. and the expectation that - you will be bored -- deal with it. only one of us get car sick. we all are pretty self-entertaining people. all of us love to be read to . None of us had that urge to move move move like some kids ( my nephew). all of us like to travel. And I think my parents were very accommodating travelers. Part of traveling involves going with the flow. I'm not sure all trips were fun, but I know I looked forward to them as I got older. We were a family traveling -- not parents and children.

Not choosing to have had children( so speaking only of what I observe) -- I am guessing that sacrifice is a rather dramatic word. Change is part of having kids, so with out know how, I guess that I would expect change.

and cats-- well they aren't very helpful, they don't listen , and would like more food NOW


aurelia - Oct 29, 2008 2:37:51 pm PDT #7326 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Jesse'll tell you big orange boycats are great.

I agree!

I waited a little over an hour and 1/2 to vote. The main annoyance is that they don't offer paper ballots for early voting. I've never had to wait more than 5-10 minutes at my regular polling place in previous elections.


P.M. Marc - Oct 29, 2008 2:48:19 pm PDT #7327 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

This is genuinely confusing to me because I've seen so many parents who integrate their children's needs into their own and everyone gets what they need. Rather than losing something by having kids, they seem only to see parenting as gaining something in their lives.

Needs that cannot be met for me on a regular basis as a parent: personal "recharge" time and space; writing/creative time; enough sleep (YBMV).

Anything that I, personally, need to be emotionally healthy and balanced that requires alone/self-centered (in the good way) time, I do not at the current time in my parenting life get. It's a trade off, and the pros certainly outweigh the cons, but I'd be a poopy lie head if I didn't fess up to the part where there are, in fact, cons.


msbelle - Oct 29, 2008 2:52:41 pm PDT #7328 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

sits close, but not too close to Plei. I will say that there has been progress for me on this front in the last couple of months.


beekaytee - Oct 29, 2008 2:53:16 pm PDT #7329 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Makes sense. The time aspect of it is something I've always wondered about. How does it get managed without a tag team effort?

And go you with the truth telling. Much better than harboring resentments that end up popping out in weird ways. t /my parents


Sheryl - Oct 29, 2008 2:54:27 pm PDT #7330 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Ack, now I'm remembering the cross-country trip my family took the summer I was 16. My brother was not quite 14, and quite the pest. There's a reason I refer to that trip as the cross-country trip from hell...


quester - Oct 29, 2008 2:57:20 pm PDT #7331 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

So, who's watching Obama and who's watching Pushing Daisies?


Atropa - Oct 29, 2008 2:57:51 pm PDT #7332 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

What Plei mentioned is part of the reason I have never wanted children. I know that I need alone/down time, and I'm not willing to give that up. Especially since I never had a strong urge to have my own kidlings. Borrow other people's, sure! My own? No way.


megan walker - Oct 29, 2008 2:58:54 pm PDT #7333 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Our car trips were hell in our teens only because 1 of us inevitably ending up sharing a room with our parents at some point and my Dad snored like you wouldn't believe.


Calli - Oct 29, 2008 2:59:26 pm PDT #7334 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'll be watching Obama, at least for a bit.