Doesn't winter seem more like archiving season?

Willow ,'Lessons'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Oct 27, 2008 2:50:36 pm PDT #6877 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah did not mean to apply to Megan. But I do think the notification law will kill teenagers. Not being flippant. A real consequence.


beth b - Oct 27, 2008 2:51:43 pm PDT #6878 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

If a girl can't tell her parents that she is pregnant, it is unlikely that the baby will survive. And I also get concerned for the girls who are pregnant due to family members. It is hard enough to convince people you are being abused. My hope is that a girl has the support she needs with her family, but it just doesn't always work that way.


Kat - Oct 27, 2008 2:53:46 pm PDT #6879 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

As a parent, I'd want to know my kid was taking medication!

Obviously this is true. But as a parent, I'd also like to know when my child was sexually active and how safe they chose to be. Clearly, I wish each child were comfortable enough discussing this with their parent. But I think it's pretty odd to think we can legislate that conversation between parent and child by circumventing the child and making it parent and doctor.

Also, I guess it depends on how elective you find abortion. Elective isn't the right term necessarily. But if the docs have to treat Grace and they can't contact me, they do so without my consent if it is medically necessary. And I'm okay with that. They give her meds all the time without asking me or informing me before and I am okay with that because it's medically necessary.

Abortion is not only sexuality issues intensive, but there is the idea that it isn't necessarily medically necessary which makes it fraught.

It's a sensitive area all around.


javachik - Oct 27, 2008 2:54:55 pm PDT #6880 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

But I think it's pretty odd to think we can legislate that conversation between parent and child by circumventing the child and making it parent and doctor.

Yep.


Kat - Oct 27, 2008 2:57:39 pm PDT #6881 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Holy crap! A Plot to kill Obama (pre election or post) is actually something that utterly terrifies me. And granted that one is sort of overly ludicrous, but the fact that people are actually thinking it is not so good.


sarameg - Oct 27, 2008 2:58:21 pm PDT #6882 of 10001

The only thing on my ballot that I haven't decided (other than the judges, of which there are 8, and you can vote for....no more than 8...) is video lottery (slots.) The amendment specifies the funds go to education, which was particularly sneaky, given the education budget. I'm not happy with slots as a state revenue source, yet am unopposed to other "vice" taxes such as alcohol and tobacco, which I can't quite reconcile. OK, so authorizing slots is introducing (allowing) a vice industry expressly for the purpose of making money off it. I guess that tastes bad to me. I dunno.


Lee - Oct 27, 2008 2:59:04 pm PDT #6883 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Me too, Kat.

IO sad N, Tony Hillerman died. [link]


Sophia Brooks - Oct 27, 2008 2:59:32 pm PDT #6884 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Wow. I have heard several (black) people say that electing Obama would just lead to an assassination because people will never let a black man be president, but just... wow.


beth b - Oct 27, 2008 3:00:56 pm PDT #6885 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I think abortion is also sensitive because it only effects half the population. Well, actually only half the population is really involved in teen pregnancy. Palin's son-in-law to be is a rare case. I can list a number of women who's lives were changed by a teenage pregnancy and I can't think of one man . Doesn't mean there aren't any,but I don't think my experience is unusual


Typo Boy - Oct 27, 2008 3:01:08 pm PDT #6886 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Here is a link from no on 4 [link]

It has a number of links to studies including by the American Academy of Peds. Bottom line: most kids do tell either parents or parent surrogates. Those who don't usually have good reason. Notification laws don't increase communication among healthy families, but do have awful health results among those with already bad communication. Incidentally, notification alternate adult usually includes notification of police or social worker who in turn tells parent.