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Frankenbuddha - Oct 24, 2008 9:09:40 am PDT #6286 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I guess the other thing that encourages me is that with the economy in the crapper, these guys would just as soon let the other party take the blame for the cleanup.

I get the vibe, and it may just be me, that Bush is going to be happy for it to be over. He doesn't seem like he has his old swagger to me.

I remember getting the same vibe off of Bush Sr. when he was running for his second term. For pretty much the same reason as above. I hope the results in terms of the economy are the same this time around, minus the stupendously dumb scandal material that Big Dog brought with it. I swear if he'd been able to keep it in his pants we'd be finishing up Gore's second term now.


ChiKat - Oct 24, 2008 9:10:03 am PDT #6287 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Gud, I won't believe it until the morning after his acceptance speech when I see the headlines in multiple places.

This is totally me. I get cautiously optimistic and then I remember 2000 and get pessimistic all over.


Barb - Oct 24, 2008 9:14:39 am PDT #6288 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

And yet... yet...

Palin stylist draws higher pay than policy adviser

An acclaimed celebrity makeup artist for Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin collected more money from John McCain's campaign than his foreign policy adviser.

Amy Strozzi, who works on the reality show "So You Think You Can Dance" and has been Palin's traveling stylist, was paid $22,800, according to campaign finance reports for the first two weeks in October. In contrast, McCain's foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, was paid $12,500, the report showed.


juliana - Oct 24, 2008 9:15:55 am PDT #6289 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

he believes the current administration is capable of declaring martial law or something to prevent the election from going on and extending the president indefinitely.

I agree with your friend. I won't believe anything until Obama is sworn in 1/20/09, and then I still don't trust that something bad won't happen.


DavidS - Oct 24, 2008 9:18:08 am PDT #6290 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Gud, The Onion reports that Swaggering is down 87%. Could be an epidemic.


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2008 9:22:35 am PDT #6291 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

he believes the current administration is capable of declaring martial law or something to prevent the election from going on and extending the president indefinitely.

I agree with your friend. I won't believe anything until Obama is sworn in 1/20/09, and then I still don't trust that something bad won't happen.

I feel this way, too. I'm on the paranoia train.


Typo Boy - Oct 24, 2008 9:45:54 am PDT #6292 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And as too much fuss made being made over Palin's 150,000 shopping spree (plus makup): anyone who thinks that can get back to me on that after they travel back in time and stop all the damn fuss being made about Edward's spending $400 on a haircut.


Jesse - Oct 24, 2008 9:48:17 am PDT #6293 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My commune living friend said this years ago; he believes the current administration is capable of declaring martial law or something to prevent the election from going on and extending the president indefinitely.

Here in NYC, we have term limits -- except the City Council just voted that the limit is three terms, not two LIKE THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR, because Bloomberg wants to run again. I don't even believe in term limits and this pisses me off.


Emily - Oct 24, 2008 9:53:50 am PDT #6294 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

I swear if he'd been able to keep it in his pants we'd be finishing up Gore's second term now.

If 9/11 hadn't happened, yes. I've often thought though that if it had happened and he'd been president, he'd have been blamed for being too weak (because he's a Democrat! Of course he's weak!).

So this is what it's like living in a battleground state, huh? It's interesting to see how the campaigns are managing their calls, though -- yesterday I got a message from Michelle Obama letting me know that Virginia allows early voting in some places and 3 different calls from Republicans letting me know that Obama's, you know, weak in one way or another and will destroy the country. Oh, and Rudy Giuliani called to let me know that Obama is opposed to minimum sentences, and if he has his way there'll be nothing to keep liberal judges from letting murderers GO FREE! Apparently I should trust Congress's vast sweeping generalizations more than judges' individual judgment. Shut up, Republican Party! You're just making me mad! While the Democrats are all, "Here, let us make sure you can participate in democracy."


Gudanov - Oct 24, 2008 9:54:59 am PDT #6295 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Here in NYC, we have term limits -- except the City Council just voted that the limit is three terms, not two LIKE THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR

I think that's pretty outrageous.

And as too much fuss made being made over Palin's 150,000 shopping spree (plus makup)

I've read some defenses of that. Sure, I don't think it is that important to the issues. Ok, sure, she's on the national stage and you expect a crazy amount to be spent on appearance. It's reasonable to expect that a woman would have to spend more than a man would have to, not the campaign's fault there just the expectations of society. But one. hundred. fifty. thousand? It's hard not to be taken aback.