Angel: I appreciate you guys looking out for Connor all summer. It's just—he's confused. He needs time. That's all. Fred: Right. Time, and some corporal punishment with a large heavy mallet. Not that I'm bitter.

'Just Rewards (2)'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Oct 16, 2008 10:10:24 am PDT #4969 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Dude, if you are making over a quarter million dollars in taxable income then you're already living the dream and I doubt that going back to 39% from 36% on the amount over a quarter million is going to ruin everything.


Dana - Oct 16, 2008 10:12:19 am PDT #4970 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Gud's a socialist!


Kathy A - Oct 16, 2008 10:18:59 am PDT #4971 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Hee--from Rachel Maddow's blog debate watch-n-post:

Watching McCain argue is like watching a random-orbital sander at work. Trade! Colombia! You haven't traveled right! Hostages! Ta-daa! What are we talking about again?


Gudanov - Oct 16, 2008 10:26:39 am PDT #4972 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Rachel Maddow's blog debate watch-n-post

Link?


Kathy A - Oct 16, 2008 10:38:02 am PDT #4973 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The liveblog is here, but I read someone's quoting from it over at TWOP's Maddow thread.


Gudanov - Oct 16, 2008 10:39:04 am PDT #4974 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Thanks


hippocampus - Oct 16, 2008 10:41:50 am PDT #4975 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

"Joe Wurzelbacher will appear on FOX News Channel's "Huckabee" program in an exclusive primetime interview Saturday at 8 p.m. ET. The show will re-air on Sunday night, also at 8 p.m. ET. Wurzelbacher will appear on the program with his son and father."

Think that's still going to happen?

the Roe v. Wade / anti birth-control / creepy sideshow machiavellian palin stuff is not going to make me craxy. Noes it won't. I will just be in Tina Fey's luggage when she moves.


Typo Boy - Oct 16, 2008 10:56:10 am PDT #4976 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I don't get how the current incarnation of the Republican party could possibly be thought of as conservative.

There are a lot of strands of conservatism. "Small Government" is actually only one strand and a recent one at that.

As someone who is very far from a conservative, but tries to grapple intellectually with positions that differ from my own, there are some very valuable strands in the conservative tradition. It is just that most living conservatives tend not to pay much attention to them. "Compassionate Conservative" does not have to be just a bitter joke. There is a whole tradition of humane conservatives - Jonathan Swift, Burke, Disraeli, and some of the Inklings such as Chesterton and C.S. Lewis. That tradition includes a concern that abstract principle should not outweigh empirical evidence, that trust in potential virtue should be tempered by awareness of the range of actual human behavior, that policy and process alike should take into consideration human fallibility. Love of war and tolerance for cruelty are not fundamental to conservative philosophy. Because nobody wins everything I would prefer my conservative opponents be thoughtful humane, and fundamentally decent - also because I'd rather have an honorable opponent than a rabid enemy. For this reason I wish some thoughtful conservatives would go back to the best rather than worst of their intellectual roots, to drastically rethink conservatism. But I think conservatives may want to do this for their own sake as well.

Although Gore Vidal is usually thought of a far leftists, I sometimes suspect him of being a humane decent conservative - a "Red Tory".


Gudanov - Oct 16, 2008 11:12:48 am PDT #4977 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Fact Check Article on Joe's Taxes

[link]


amych - Oct 16, 2008 11:13:20 am PDT #4978 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Neal Hefti, who wrote the theme songs for The Odd Couple and the 60s Batman series, has died. The world feels a little less infectiously bouncy, somehow.