Mercy is the mark of a great man. Guess I'm just a good man. Well, I'm all right.

Mal ,'Shindig'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 10, 2008 3:53:15 am PDT #3845 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Plus, in no other country can the electoral process be this entertaining. Seriously, Palin?

Heh. Don't you guys have your own brand of right-wing crazy going on down there, or am I, ahem, misremembering?


Frankenbuddha - Oct 10, 2008 3:53:56 am PDT #3846 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Also, I so hope your analysis is right, billytea.


billytea - Oct 10, 2008 4:14:50 am PDT #3847 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Heh. Don't you guys have your own brand of right-wing crazy going on down there, or am I, ahem, misremembering?

Oh yes, we had Pauline Hanson, kicked out of the Liberal Party in the 90s for less than progressive views on race. She was memorably (to me, anyway) lampooned in a radio sketch as a bag of sawdust with two slogans painted on it: "Asians go home" and "No handouts for Abos". She founded a party, One Nation. Our legitimate rural party, the National Party, managed to see them off at the peak of their popularity, and her party was subsequently riven by infighting and financial scandal. She was last seen appearing on Dancing with the Stars.

Seriously, we had an election end of last year, in which we kicked out John Howard's Liberal Party. (Here, the Libs are the conservatives, and water spirals the wrong way down the sink.) He was an unrepentant social conservative, who'd failed in his first bid for the Prime Ministership in part due to a reputation for anti-Asian bigotry. He made it into power in 1996 on the back of a deeply unpopular Labor Party and a deferred payback for the recession of the early 90s (that also helped Clinton come to power), and immediately set about ushering in a bold vision of yesteryear.

In 2001, facing election defeat, he decided to demonise illegal immigrants. A boatload got into trouble coming from Indonesia, the coastguard radioed a nearby Norwegian ship (the Tampa) to rescue them, the Tampa then requested to offload them on Christmas Island, and Australian protectorate and the nearest land. Howard refused. Some reprehensible fearmongering followed about protecting our borders from the wrong sort of people (insufficiently prone to melanomas, I think; we have the highest melanoma rate in the world, and dammit, we're proud of it), including claims that the illegals on the boat had deliberately thrown their own children in the water to try to force the coastguard to pick them up (see, they don't care for their children the way we do). In fact, they were in the water because their ship had sunk. The govt never apologised.

He lost the election last year, and in a fitting postscript, became only the second PM in our history to lose his own seat as well as the election. (His seat, Bennelong, had been safe Lib when he entered Parliament. But it had changed, and by 2007, included a large population of Asian immigrants. Poetic indeed.) He was more Nixon than Bush; he had a lot of political nous and rat cunning, but no warmth and little in the way of scruples. Like Bush, however, he left his party deeply divided and without a clear way forward.

Incidentally, I believe he was also the only head of government actually in Washington on 9/11.


Toddson - Oct 10, 2008 4:20:11 am PDT #3848 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

For the quince dresses, try this site. I don't seem to be able to link to individual dresses, but some of them ....

I think their designers were having a Disney marathon while on drugs. (I think "Bella" is especially hideous ... although parents might approve because no boy - or anyone else - could get close enough to sully their little girl's purity.)


Barb - Oct 10, 2008 4:28:11 am PDT #3849 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

Oh yeah, that's a Disney Crackfest.

The fact that there's a dress named "Clarice" is... disturbing. Not to mention, the dress itself is pretty disturbing as well.

The faux pull-on sleeve thingies are also scaring me. Like the ones on "Trinity" with the bows! ACK!


Kat - Oct 10, 2008 4:29:25 am PDT #3850 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Hahahahahhaha..... sorry. The quince dresses make me laugh and laugh.

I think project runway, next year, should do a quince challenge. It would be harder then their normal wedding ones.


Lee - Oct 10, 2008 4:29:31 am PDT #3851 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Jesse, she's off the show.

According to EW, she is only mostly off--she'll be back once or twice.


Aims - Oct 10, 2008 4:30:49 am PDT #3852 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Either quince dresses or chapel-approved wedding dresses for LDS women.


tommyrot - Oct 10, 2008 4:34:35 am PDT #3853 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

For the quince dresses, try this site. I don't seem to be able to link to individual dresses, but some of them ....

Jesus Christ. Some of those dresses could hide a midget orchestra under them....


Barb - Oct 10, 2008 4:37:30 am PDT #3854 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

Hahahahahhaha..... sorry. The quince dresses make me laugh and laugh.

Seriously, there's a reason-- a lot of them, actually-- that I never had a quince, much to my family's dismay.