I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.

Simon ,'Safe'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Oct 08, 2008 5:31:47 am PDT #3273 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Another problem for McCain is that terrorism is way down the list of concerns right now.

You know, that could be their master plan. We're not affraid of terrorism anymore because we're terrified about the economy. Genius.


Toddson - Oct 08, 2008 5:32:01 am PDT #3274 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Now if only McCain would pull a Howard Dean ....


tommyrot - Oct 08, 2008 5:32:28 am PDT #3275 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

All generals though.

No admirals, though - right?

Carter, Ford and Bush Sr. were in the Navy. Of course Ford was never elected. Carter served on subs - anyone know what his rank was? Bush Sr. was the youngest pilot in the Navy in WWII to serve on a carrier.


Ginger - Oct 08, 2008 5:34:33 am PDT #3276 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Your first President was a victorious general. As were Grant and Eisenhower. Seems when you guys really like a war, someone gets moved into the Oval Office.

Yet all three hated war and feared the influence of the military on government. Also, if we were really going to learn from history, we should have noticed that Grant presided over the most corrupt administration in the nation's history. He was innocent of the corruption, but completely clueless about politics. As a result, we had an administration under which government contracts were openly sold on the streets of Washington.

Incidentally, Washington surrendered a grand total of once in his military career, and it was to the French.

This is partly because he was a master of the strategic retreat.


billytea - Oct 08, 2008 5:35:08 am PDT #3277 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

You know, that could be their master plan. We're not affraid of terrorism anymore because we're terrified about the economy. Genius.

McCain can pull the greatest upset in electoral history if only he's willing to bomb AIG's headquarters.


tommyrot - Oct 08, 2008 5:36:28 am PDT #3278 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

This is partly because he was a master of the strategic retreat.

Uh-huh. What we would now call guerrilla warfare.


Trudy Booth - Oct 08, 2008 5:40:01 am PDT #3279 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

McCain can pull the greatest upset in electoral history if only he's willing to bomb AIG's headquarters.

Who do you think punched Richard Fuld in the face?


Ginger - Oct 08, 2008 5:41:31 am PDT #3280 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Carter was a lieutenant when he left the Navy to run the family business after his father died. He is the only graduate of the Naval Academy to become president, and we can only hope that remains true. He is not convincing evidence that military training makes a good president. He's a great ex-president, though.


tommyrot - Oct 08, 2008 5:42:56 am PDT #3281 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

McCain needs to go down to Wall St. dressed as a superhero and kick some ass. Maybe The Punisher or The Comedian or Sgt. Hatred.


Aims - Oct 08, 2008 5:44:52 am PDT #3282 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

McCain needs to go down to Wall St. dressed as a superhero

Knowing him, he'd probably fuck it all up and end up being down there dressed as Robbie Rotten.