Nothing worse than a monster who thinks he's right with God.

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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Oct 07, 2008 10:14:16 am PDT #3045 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Attempts to scare away voters starting up: [link]

Not for nothing but all that AIG stuff would have been booked months and months ago, so while the timing is awful and the cost is ridiculous by most standards - that type of retreat was probably normal for them and it's not like they planned it while the bailout money came through.


juliana - Oct 07, 2008 10:20:22 am PDT #3046 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Not for nothing but all that AIG stuff would have been booked months and months ago, so while the timing is awful and the cost is ridiculous by most standards - that type of retreat was probably normal for them and it's not like they planned it while the bailout money came through.

Yeah, this. Plus, they wouldn't have gotten any money back.

On the other hand (puts on my PR hat), I would have strongly advised them not to go on such a trip.


msbelle - Oct 07, 2008 10:22:49 am PDT #3047 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I bet they would have gotten some money back. With a week's cancellation notice and the promise of a future retreat, I bet they could have negotiated 10-25% back and yes, it would be a PR win then.


tommyrot - Oct 07, 2008 10:29:01 am PDT #3048 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

A guy from Spain who was in Japan took off his clothes and jumped into the Imperial Palace moat. Boing Boing described it:

Tokyo Times reports that a man took off his clothes and jumped into the Imperial Palace moat to retrieve a bag, and ended up getting into a tragicomic tussle with the police.

Tokyo Imperial Palace pandemonium

More or less worksafe, although one photo you can see his naked butt from the side. I haven't watched the videos so I don't know if they're worksafe....


Kathy A - Oct 07, 2008 10:39:52 am PDT #3049 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Both of my parents are heading off on vacations this week. My dad and his wife are going to Vegas tomorrow to hang out on the Strip and see my sis and BIL who live in the outskirts of town. And my mom is taking a cruise in the Greek islands with a few days in Venice first.

I'm jealous and want my vacation now! (Even though I really shouldn't complain--I'll be in Vegas in five weeks myself.) I took a half-day PTO yesterday so I could catch up on my sleep, and just want some more time off.


Trudy Booth - Oct 07, 2008 10:48:11 am PDT #3050 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Not for nothing but all that AIG stuff would have been booked months and months ago, so while the timing is awful and the cost is ridiculous by most standards - that type of retreat was probably normal for them and it's not like they planned it while the bailout money came through.

Yeah, this. Plus, they wouldn't have gotten any money back

I dunno, they're pretty hooked-up guys. The St. Regis would probably be far more flexible with them than they would with any of us. "I'm sorry, Mr. Gates, a deposit is a deposit" or "You were 20 minutes late, Mr. Trump, so we gave away your table." Just aren't things that happen.


tommyrot - Oct 07, 2008 10:54:12 am PDT #3051 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

"I'm sorry, Mr. Gates, a deposit is a deposit" or "You were 20 minutes late, Mr. Trump, so we gave away your table."

"I'm sorry, Mr. Bush, you wrecked the economy, so we can't serve you until you clean our toilets."


brenda m - Oct 07, 2008 10:54:41 am PDT #3052 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Plus, "what they spent" and "what they pre-paid/guaranteed" aren't necessarily the same thing.

In any case, we're talking about 500k, which in the scheme of things isn't really that big a deal. As the original post said, it's the PR boneheadedness that's really worth remarking on.


Allyson - Oct 07, 2008 11:08:24 am PDT #3053 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Well, there were certainly things they could have done to get the cost down. I'm unsure why the company was paying for spa visits, for example.


msbelle - Oct 07, 2008 11:16:49 am PDT #3054 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

faster no-knead bread from the Times: [link]