River: I didn't think you'd come for me. Simon: Well, you're a dummy.

'Serenity'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


beekaytee - Oct 03, 2008 7:08:47 am PDT #2267 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

::facepalm::

darling of the fundamentalists, who doesn't attend church.

HOW can fundies support someone who doesn't even have a church home? How is is possible to manipulate such a literalist community while not walking the talk?

Ohgodmystomachhurts.


brenda m - Oct 03, 2008 7:09:37 am PDT #2268 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I strongly suspect that any physical records that deem him fit to be Commander in Chief have been doctored.

No need; there are thousands of pages of them and they allowed reporters access for something like three hours with no note-taking allowed.


msbelle - Oct 03, 2008 7:10:16 am PDT #2269 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

He goes to church now, right? We were discussing this here in the last month and I think he does attend somewhere regularly.


beekaytee - Oct 03, 2008 7:10:19 am PDT #2270 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Neither of those things makes the whole scene any less creepy, but I always have this annoying need to get factcheck-y.

No.no. I really appreciate the correctness. If I'm going to rant, I want to have at least a glancing relationship with the truth.


Gudanov - Oct 03, 2008 7:10:52 am PDT #2271 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

HOW can fundies support someone who doesn't even have a church home? How is is possible to manipulate such a literalist community while not walking the talk?

Pro-Life, Anti-Gay Marriage, Pro-Gun


beekaytee - Oct 03, 2008 7:20:29 am PDT #2272 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Pro-Life, Anti-Gay Marriage, Pro-Gun

I get that, but if she doesn't have a religious home she can point to and say 'this is where my beliefs come from', I just don't see how church-bound folk could trust her. Then again, this goes back to my original fear, which is that it doesn't matter if you have a moral leg to stand on as long as you look like Mickey Mouse or have white, white teeth.


Gudanov - Oct 03, 2008 7:23:25 am PDT #2273 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I thought an interesting part of the debate was when they agreed on the issue of gay-marriage/civil unions. It may have been my imagination, but I got a vibe of "that can't be right" from Palin.


msbelle - Oct 03, 2008 7:24:06 am PDT #2274 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

There is also a mindset of a certain type of religion-spouting Christian that emphasizes the "personal relationship with God". They appear to look down on the idea that a community of believers lead by persons who have studied the texts in a formal way is necessary or even beneficial. It is another side of the anti-intellectual coin. They do not need others telling them what their God means or thinks is right, they know.


Toddson - Oct 03, 2008 7:24:31 am PDT #2275 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I wish Molly Ivins were around - I always do, but I'd love to hear her take on this whole thing.


amych - Oct 03, 2008 7:27:59 am PDT #2276 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

msbelle says it better than I could wrt the personal relationship thing. Also* keep in mind that in Fundie theology just as in Fundie politics, having the right beliefs is far more important than paying too much attention to the correct rituals. Saying that someone has to show membership papers might as well be Papist.

* is anyone else feeling awfully self-conscious about that word this morning?