I've got two words that are going to make all the pain go away. Miniature Golf.

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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Oct 03, 2008 3:27:09 am PDT #2199 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It's far better for my stress level if I just read about the debate here, I think. I wimped out last night and watched Supernatural and then collapsified into bed.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 03, 2008 3:31:29 am PDT #2200 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I did NOT watch the debate (I've been in enough pain the last week and a half to put up with listening to Fauxksy Flick). However, I must say the Buffista debate watch and post is the bestest debate coverage evah!


Hil R. - Oct 03, 2008 4:10:16 am PDT #2201 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah, I don't want someone I can relate to as president. I would be a horrible president! Why would I want someone who seems like me?


JZ - Oct 03, 2008 4:28:15 am PDT #2202 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Okay, this sourcing of Palin's closing remarks is both awesome and appalling.


Jessica - Oct 03, 2008 4:37:47 am PDT #2203 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Debate meara:

she still sounds like she is reading lines or scared to death or something

Or both. Though I do have to give her points for flat-out saying "Yeah, I have a bunch of stuff I'm supposed to read off these index cards so I won't actually be answering questions. PS, go fuck yourselves. Gosh-golly tee-hee!"

Damn. I was all excited that Biden called it "gay marriage" and now he's backpedaling.

Yeah. BOO Democratic Party. Grow some fucking balls already.

wait...How does McCain know how to win a war?

He crashed 5 planes, got captured, and so wasn't really in the loop when we lost?

I yelled at my TV, why is the INFANT being carried out at 10:30 PM!?!?

Eh, 4 month olds don't sleep anyway. [edit: or 6-month olds. At least, mine didn't.]

Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 9 p.m. EDT at Hofstra University's Hofstra Arena in Hempstead, New York, moderated by Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent and host of Face the Nation. This debate will focus on domestic and economic policy.

DH's aunt is a prof at Hofstra, and is livid that the staff won't be allowed to attend the debate.

Palin was making every one of my senses hurt with rage last night. With the WINKING and the pageant grins and the fake-folksy interjections, and the "Oh I'm just a hockey mom, I don't understand big government!" FUCKING BULLSHIT. If you DON'T UNDERSTAND GOVERNMENT, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT BE IN IT, YOU STUPID FUCKING BINT.


Hil R. - Oct 03, 2008 4:45:24 am PDT #2204 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Eh, 4 month olds don't sleep anyway. [edit: or 6-month olds. At least, mine didn't.]

I think that babies with Down Syndrome tend to sleep more than other babies. He's looked asleep most times I've seen someone holding him on TV.


flea - Oct 03, 2008 4:49:56 am PDT #2205 of 10001
information libertarian

Or they could be dosing him with Benadryl.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 03, 2008 4:51:50 am PDT #2206 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Or they could be dosing him with Benadryl.

Or Yukon Jack.


Gudanov - Oct 03, 2008 5:06:51 am PDT #2207 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I thought Palin did well. She seemed nervous and scripted, but she still did fine. I think people who like her weren't given any reason to change their minds. However, I think a potential president should have more gravitas than Wally Cleaver.

I think Biden did well too. He had to meet a higher bar than Palin, but I think he did the job.

I though perhaps Palin's one really bad moment was when she was asked about the office of the Vice President being in the legislative branch. I felt that went right over her head.


brenda m - Oct 03, 2008 5:11:54 am PDT #2208 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Well, CNN [link] is saying that Biden won, but that Palin exceeded expectations which is totally in keeping what we were saying on here, that the bar for her was so so incredibly low, it wouldn't take much.

About what I expected. If you look at the recent interviews, she's generally fine giving a more-or-less on topic answer from her talking points. It's when she's called on something or pressed for specifics that she falls apart, and that wasn't really going to happen here.

I though perhaps Palin's one really bad moment was when she was asked about the office of the Vice President being in the legislative branch. I felt that went right over her head.

I think that piece is going to grow in significance. Not so much about it being over her head (which it was) but about the insight it gave into how in line she and McCain are with the power-grab mentality of the current administration. When she starts talking about the VP choosing to exert more control over Congress, you're starting down an ugly (an unconstitutional) road.