ok, fine - I have a thing about kids being up late.

And, 9:30 would be late for my kid, but who knows what schedule the baby is on. And while I'd love to find yet another thing to hate about her, I am working not to be judgy mcjudgerson on that one.

At six months, they're still pretty portable and late nights are easy. They'll sleep in your arms, the car...

Man, I miss that.

I thought she was really nervous at first and improved, but think that overall he was stronger. The folksy stuff irritated me and I do have family that talks like that. But they do it differently. She does it like a script.

Was there criticism upthread of Biden not talking to the camera? Because I didn't like how Palin did talk to the camera all the time, especially when she was verbally addressing Biden. She was all accusatory, "you did this, you said that" and I was all, hey, man, no I didn't. You gotta talk to the guy on your right about that. When Biden did talk to the camera was when he was talking to me. Now should he have talked to me more? Probably. But I think Palin's broadcast background served her poorly in that area, where there is typically only one camera that matters and only one audience, which is seen through that lens. In debate, there is the moderator and the local audience and your opponent and the camera audience. But Palin only spoke to one, which gave her a weird teleprompter appearance even though it was presumably a live event.

He may be a rotten pilot, but he did not cause the fire on the Forrestal.

My reading skill was probably affected by my nausea and rage.

Yeah, I'm not done reading it yet and I'm pretty sick to my stomach.

He may not have caused the fire but his actions afterwards do not sound very brave or honorable. I feel like I need a shower after reading it.

I only watched bits of the debate. I had to put my kids to bed. I'll catch the rest on c-span later. I still think Palin's as deep as a bird bath. Not that that matters to her fans.

I want to see if the ladies on The View discuss it after their dust up today.

Hey, remind me, the remaining two presidential debates; what are the dates and topics?

billytea, Wikipedia says:

Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 8 p.m. CDT at Belmont University's Curb Event Center in Nashville, Tennessee, moderated by Tom Brokaw, special correspondent (and former evening news anchor) for NBC News. This debate will have a town-hall meeting format.

Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 9 p.m. EDT at Hofstra University's Hofstra Arena in Hempstead, New York, moderated by Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent and host of Face the Nation. This debate will focus on domestic and economic policy.

We went to a local restaurant to watch. This was painful,because I was not allowed to talk to the tv. Others waned to hear. I spent a lot of time slapping my hand over my mouth. I did leave briefly after the city on the hill thing. there was a cheer when biden called Cheney the evilest.