(I'm glad she didn't come off as a dumbass. A wrongheaded wrongperson who is WRONG AND DELUDED, sure, but I was tiring of the airhead implications and didn't believe they were true.)
Tara: 'Your One-Stop Spot to Shop for Lots of New-Age and Occult Items.' Catchy. Giles: Think so? Tara: Uh huh. In a... hard to say sorta way.
'Sleeper'
Natter 61*
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
sarameg - Oct 02, 2008 5:36:58 pm PDT #2147 of 10001
amych - Oct 02, 2008 5:37:19 pm PDT #2148 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Killer Rolling Stone piece here:
I read that earlier today -- and, dang. I thought I disliked the fucker before.
Jesse - Oct 02, 2008 5:40:29 pm PDT #2149 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
(I'm glad she didn't come off as a dumbass. A wrongheaded wrongperson who is WRONG AND DELUDED, sure, but I was tiring of the airhead implications and didn't believe they were true.)
The Couric interview clips I've seen were TERRIFYING, so yeah, I do agree with you.
msbelle - Oct 02, 2008 5:47:49 pm PDT #2150 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I yelled at my TV, why is the INFANT being carried out at 10:30 PM!?!?
Ginger - Oct 02, 2008 5:49:14 pm PDT #2151 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Killer Rolling Stone piece here
I was just reading that. I was particularly horrified by the fact that he used family connections to fly again after the crashes he'd had would disqualify him. Then his crashing plane set the U.S.S. Forrestal on fire, killing 134 sailors. McCain, as the article snarked, had a lot of practice surviving plane crashes. He watched the fire on closed circuit TV while others died fighting it.
Consuela - Oct 02, 2008 5:55:16 pm PDT #2152 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Then his crashing plane set the U.S.S. Forrestal on fire, killing 134 sailors.
To be fair, that wasn't his fault. Another plane fired a rocket through his own plane, which blew gas all over and then his own bombs fell into the hold of the ship. Not something that could be controlled for.
His reaction to it? Not something to be proud of. But I wouldn't blame him for the original accident, at least not based on what the RS article said.
I did find the statements by the other POWs pretty compelling: that one of the reasons McCain didn't come home with the other prisoners is that he would have had to testify against the US, and that was a court-martial offense. Also, by that point he was getting much better treatment, anyway.
Ginger - Oct 02, 2008 6:00:56 pm PDT #2153 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
To be fair, that wasn't his fault.
That's true, but I couldn't help suspecting his flying skills might have contributed, given his record.
The article does confirm my experience with serious illness; if you're a jerk and you suffer a lot, usually you're still a jerk afterwards.
SailAweigh - Oct 02, 2008 6:01:50 pm PDT #2154 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Then his crashing plane set the U.S.S. Forrestal on fire
Um, no. A missile being loaded onto an aircraft accidentally went off. It struck another aircraft on deck, parked off to one side, either waiting to be towed to the catapault or being parked after coming back. That plane was, I believe, McCain's. They have pictures of him climbing out of the cockpit and scrambling over his and a couple other planes to get away from the fire. He barely missed being blown up by the bombs and ammo cooking off. He may be a rotten pilot, but he did not cause the fire on the Forrestal.
ETA: X-posty goodness.
billytea - Oct 02, 2008 6:02:41 pm PDT #2155 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
I yelled at my TV, why is the INFANT being carried out at 10:30 PM!?!?
If they flew straight in from Alaska, it'd only be 6:30 infant-time.
Kat - Oct 02, 2008 6:03:29 pm PDT #2156 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
The family thing really, really backfired on her, didn't it.
What was the family thing?
I had to stop listening after they both answered a question about what they do would if the president died. Biden was so good. He had the rhetoric (in a good way... the building of the argument way) down. He had awesome repetition. He was clear and cohesive. And she wasn't bad. Just watch from the hall. Which was hard to do because I was driving and there was no hallway.