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'The Message'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


billytea - Oct 02, 2008 5:08:58 pm PDT #2097 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Palin isn't generating any Katie Couric moments, but the audience reaction doesn't seem to be buying into her. I don't see this as a game-changer. It may halt some of the slide away from McCain - Palin at least achieved coherence - but it's not going to win people back for him.


hippocampus - Oct 02, 2008 5:09:09 pm PDT #2098 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

wait...How does McCain know how to win a war?

"Trust us. John will win this war for us. He's the daddy and I'm the mommy. Just trust us."


msbelle - Oct 02, 2008 5:09:32 pm PDT #2099 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

from a war we lost. where he got captured and crashed planes.

oh wait, that's unpatriotic. sorry, I've been reading factcheck.org, forgot facts don't matter.


Aims - Oct 02, 2008 5:10:26 pm PDT #2100 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Wars Since McCain was 18:

Vietnam. Desert Storm. Iraq. Drugs.

We only won one of those.

STOP WINKING.


sarameg - Oct 02, 2008 5:10:35 pm PDT #2101 of 10001

Do not go to the former Yugo. It's more complex than talking points. And not hundreds of years. Legacies of crusades and empires and invasions and local politics and tribes and calculated rivalries invoked. Of course, only me and the five others who've studied it really care.

(I once dreamed- while writing multiple papers on the topic- that the "enter" key on my keyboard was "fmr" so I could type faster.)


JZ - Oct 02, 2008 5:11:53 pm PDT #2102 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

And... Matilda just had a Gabba Gabba sobbing fit and I'm still feeling just too sick and weary to deal with it, so no more debate.

No. Wait. I should check CNN or PBS online. Derr.


Anne W. - Oct 02, 2008 5:12:10 pm PDT #2103 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

"Say it ain't so, Joe?"

HOLY HELL.


Dana - Oct 02, 2008 5:12:12 pm PDT #2104 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

"Say it ain't so, Joe! Doggone-it! God bless her!"

Actually, maybe I'll expire from an overload of folksy charm first.


Allyson - Oct 02, 2008 5:12:22 pm PDT #2105 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't think the people are buying the gosh golly gees.


Jesse - Oct 02, 2008 5:12:59 pm PDT #2106 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

We only won one of those.

We won the war on drugs?!?!??! That's awesome.