They should film that story and show it every Christmas.

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Sep 16, 2008 1:46:24 pm PDT #8997 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Can you try 294 to 80 east, Cash?


Typo Boy - Sep 16, 2008 1:50:43 pm PDT #8998 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Exactly. It's hard to take a moral high ground w/r/t renewable energy if you're causing avian destruction as a part of your operation. Oil spills are a (supposedly rare) accident, and accidents happen.

Modern turbines are large, spin slower and are placed on towers that attract fewer birds and are spaced further apart which also attracts further birds. So you get much less damage than from older wind farms.

But you know what? There is no Kilowatt Fairy, no BTU Bunny. No power source is zero impact. Solar cells on roofs include some stuff that is mined and processed in very toxic ways. Compact Fl bulbs have mercury.

The reason they are better is not that they are zero impact, but that impact is lower, and especially that impact is not such as is likely to bring down our civilization. And that is a good enough reason to support renewables. Fuck purity.


Kathy A - Sep 16, 2008 1:51:36 pm PDT #8999 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Hee--from the Onion: Evolutionists Flock to Darwin-Shaped Wallstain, in Dayton, TN, of course!


Cashmere - Sep 16, 2008 1:55:08 pm PDT #9000 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Kathy, they made us exit at 394, so we're shooting for something to get us to US 30. We're taking that to my hometown.


Kathy A - Sep 16, 2008 1:59:37 pm PDT #9001 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm trying to figure out where the hell 394 is at on the map!


Kathy A - Sep 16, 2008 2:01:15 pm PDT #9002 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Oh, okay (after googling), that's the Bishop Ford.

394 should take you to 30.


Cashmere - Sep 16, 2008 2:02:19 pm PDT #9003 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

took us awhile to find it, too! But it connects to 30 so we're good. just creeping along for te last two miles.


Cashmere - Sep 16, 2008 2:04:57 pm PDT #9004 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

thanks, Kathy!


Kathy A - Sep 16, 2008 2:07:27 pm PDT #9005 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm not too familiar with roads on the South Side, but I know of the "Bishop Ford Freeway" from the traffic reports. I've never heard it called 394, though after looking at the Wikipedia entry, I see that it's Illinois (state road) 394. If the Peotone airport ever gets approved and built, it'll probably be expanded to Interstate 394.


Anne W. - Sep 16, 2008 2:50:02 pm PDT #9006 of 10003
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Re: the Palin Baby Name Generator

I'm not sure if I win or lose.

"Smoke Strapon Palin"