I'm a vision of hotliness, and how weird is that? Mystical comas. You know, if you can stand the horror of a higher power hijacking your mind and body so that it can give birth to itself, I really recommend 'em.

Cordelia ,'You're Welcome'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Sep 11, 2008 5:25:38 pm PDT #8336 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

There was an interesting program around 1910 to try to move Jews out of the east coast cities. Some of it was incentives for Jews to move from the east coast to small towns in the midwest. Another big part of it was incentives for ship companies to change their routes so that they'd be bringing Eastern European (mostly Jewish) immigrants to Galveston rather than Ellis Island. [link] My great-grandfather was on one of those ships, and after landing in Galveston, he stayed there just long enough to earn enough money to get on a train to New York.

(There seems to be a history of "we don't like the Jews over here -- let's put them over there!" programs. One of my grandfather's cousin's was trying to get to the US from Vienna during WWII, and he stopped in England for a time, and was then classified as an "enemy" and deported to Australia. [link]


amych - Sep 11, 2008 5:39:46 pm PDT #8337 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Wow, Hil -- I'd heard of that story, but didn't know you had a connection to it. Did he stay in Oz after they finally got residency?


Cass - Sep 11, 2008 5:40:09 pm PDT #8338 of 10003
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I *hate* tv injuries. They are just vaguely sexy usually and in no way gory, swollen, oozing or ... real. This is not how my body deals with injury. I want tv injuries if I have to have ouchies.

My unstitched but deepish cuts stayed swollen a couple weeks.

Yeah, I am just over two now. It's got some more time before it's done with swelling. I will deal if it ::crosses fingers:: means less scarring. I mean, I will deal with it either way, since I have no choice. But I hope for minimal scarring.

the weather service warns.

No vagueness in that disclaimer.


Hil R. - Sep 11, 2008 5:42:19 pm PDT #8339 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Wow, Hil -- I'd heard of that story, but didn't know you had a connection to it. Did he stay in Oz after they finally got residency?

Nope. He served in the Australian army during the war, but then came to the US after the war was over, since his parents and little sister were here.

I'm not actually entirely sure how he's related. I think that his mother and my grandfather's mother were first cousins, but I'm not sure of that -- I can't find records that say for sure, and no one I've asked can remember anything beyond that he and my grandfather were cousins. He and my grandfather were about the same age and both grew up in Vienna, and they wrote a lot of letters and sent photos and stuff to each other when he was in Australia and my grandfather was in NYC, but then they seem to have lost touch after they were both living in the same city again.


Hil R. - Sep 11, 2008 6:04:50 pm PDT #8340 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I actually have another relative who went from Germany to Scotland in the late thirties, and got married and had a few kids and seemed to be settling there, but then in the early fifties, he started getting worried about nuclear proliferation, and so he and his family moved to New Zealand, since he thought that was far enough away from potential targets.

The Australian archives are pretty cool -- they've got a lot of their stuff scanned and available online, so I was able to search for my grandfather's cousin's name and it pulled up four documents -- two about his detention, and two about his army service -- and two of them were available for viewing right online, for free. I haven't seen that for any other place I've done genealogical research. Chicago has birth, marriage, and death records available for viewing online, but you've got to pay something like $16 for each one. For NYC, you can order the records online, but they send you a paper copy about a month later.


amych - Sep 11, 2008 6:22:37 pm PDT #8341 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

The Australian archives are pretty cool

Huh. I just found a fair chunk of my family -- oddly, some of them are listed as Austrian and some are listed as German.

Also, Cousin Cora was apparently Cousin Kora. I'm not sure that's a name I can handle right now.


Ginger - Sep 11, 2008 6:22:51 pm PDT #8342 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

There's a great book about the "Driving Miss Daisy" era, The Temple Bombing >[link] by Melissa Faye Greene, and much of the book is about Jews as outsiders in the South.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2008 6:25:43 pm PDT #8343 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's where Mitch Pileggi went. My TiVo went and recorded "Teleworld Paid Program" like I requested it and it's ten minutes about 90210 and 10 about Sons of Anarchy. Kind of old news.

Mitch Pileggi needs to be onscreen with James Morrison. I demand it.


Barb - Sep 11, 2008 6:26:38 pm PDT #8344 of 10003
“Not dead yet!”

Hil, have you seen the Jewish tartan?

And yeesh, like I needed more books for the TBR pile-- although I think I can buy both of the aforementioned for my MIL and then borrow them from her.


Liese S. - Sep 11, 2008 6:28:32 pm PDT #8345 of 10003
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

That's really fascinating, Hil.