A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2008 6:25:43 pm PDT #8343 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's where Mitch Pileggi went. My TiVo went and recorded "Teleworld Paid Program" like I requested it and it's ten minutes about 90210 and 10 about Sons of Anarchy. Kind of old news.

Mitch Pileggi needs to be onscreen with James Morrison. I demand it.


Barb - Sep 11, 2008 6:26:38 pm PDT #8344 of 10003
“Not dead yet!”

Hil, have you seen the Jewish tartan?

And yeesh, like I needed more books for the TBR pile-- although I think I can buy both of the aforementioned for my MIL and then borrow them from her.


Liese S. - Sep 11, 2008 6:28:32 pm PDT #8345 of 10003
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

That's really fascinating, Hil.


§ ita § - Sep 11, 2008 6:30:52 pm PDT #8346 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That tartan, linen tartan, is way cool.


Hil R. - Sep 11, 2008 6:33:31 pm PDT #8347 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

oddly, some of them are listed as Austrian and some are listed as German.

If it's WWII era, Austrians were frequently listed as German after the Anschluss.


amych - Sep 11, 2008 6:36:47 pm PDT #8348 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

If it's WWII era, Austrians were frequently listed as German after the Anschluss.

Yep, that's what I was assuming -- and there's also the matter of it being, well, Austria; after the breakup of the empire after WWI, they ended up with cousins in what became Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, "Jugo-Slavia" (as the document I just read charmingly spells it). Bourgeois urban family, traveled a lot, settled in different cities, and all of a sudden they're different countries...


Hil R. - Sep 11, 2008 6:41:29 pm PDT #8349 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

and there's also the matter of it being, well, Austria; after the breakup of the empire after WWI, they ended up with cousins in what became Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, "Jugo-Slavia" (as the document I just read charmingly spells it). Bourgeois urban family, traveled a lot, settled in different cities, and all of a sudden they're different countries...

Yep, same here. I've got some relatives who sometimes listed their birthplace as Poland, sometimes as Hungary, and sometimes as Austria, and you can make a case for any one of those being accurate, all for the same city. (Well, Hungary less so, but it's not totally wrong.) My grandfather grew up in Vienna, but relatives were in Hungary, Poland, and I think Slovakia. And then there were a few who went to Belgium or France. (We can definitely trace which city they were living in when they first took the last name, and then branch out from there. That city's in Poland now, but it used to be part of the Austro-Hungarian empire.)


amych - Sep 11, 2008 6:46:11 pm PDT #8350 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

That city's in Poland now, but it used to be part of the Austro-Hungarian empire.

Ha! Vrotislav Breslau Wrocław* represent!

* For example purposes only. Your Lower Silesia May Vary.


Hil R. - Sep 11, 2008 6:47:03 pm PDT #8351 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Nope, Galicia. Nowy Sacz.


amych - Sep 11, 2008 6:52:35 pm PDT #8352 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Heh, I wasn't guessing for real that it was the same place, but it's such a typical thing in that part of Europe. My great-grandmother was born in Breslau, and I've definitely had some weird conversations -- "But I thought your family was Austrian?"... "Well, she was originally German." "... but isn't that in Poland?" It gets to a point where it's a kind of Who's On First thing, but with empires.