That's disturbing. You're emotionally scarred and will end up badly.

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


SuziQ - Sep 11, 2008 6:23:41 am PDT #8174 of 10003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I saw two teenaged girls yesterday wearing McCain/Palin shirts and I SO wanted to shake them both. I figured that wouldn't be productive, but I kinda wish I had just asked them "why?".


Toddson - Sep 11, 2008 6:24:41 am PDT #8175 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

oh dear ... today's paper had a big picture of the Republican rally yesterday (hastily moved from the high school to a park 'cause they realized it was against the rules to have a political rally at the HS) showing a kid carrying a sign (he was probably too young to read) almost as big as he was saying "I'm for the hero and the mom". sigh.


Trudy Booth - Sep 11, 2008 6:26:51 am PDT #8176 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It's a high church Episcopalian congregation, kind of posh, but with a really good community outreach program.

My guess is that's the same one his folks went to. St. Columba? (I think)


Frankenbuddha - Sep 11, 2008 6:28:01 am PDT #8177 of 10003
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I always have my doubts about polls, but I have to believe that when the candidates stop talking about pigs and lipstick and start discussing some issues in a way that will actually educate some voters who need educating, that swing won't stick.

When? You're more optimistic than I that any source that would matter to the US at large (as opposed to those of us who go looking for substance/details) will be talking about anything that doesn't elicit a knee-jerk reaction.


msbelle - Sep 11, 2008 6:28:51 am PDT #8178 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Dowd's suggested questions for Charlie Gibson's interview of Palin:

But if you’re reading this, Charlie, we want to know everything, including:

What kind of budget-cutter makes a show of getting rid of the state plane, then turns around and bills taxpayers for the travel of her husband and kids between Juneau and Wasilla and sticks the state with a per-diem tab to stay in her own home?

Why was Sarah for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against the Bridge to Nowhere, and why was she for earmarks before she was against them? And doesn’t all this make her just as big a flip-flopper as John Kerry?

What kind of fiscal conservative raises taxes and increases budgets in both her jobs — as mayor and as governor?

When the phone rings at 3 a.m., will she call the Wasilla Assembly of God congregation and ask them to pray on a response, as she asked them to pray for a natural gas pipeline?

Does she really think Adam, Eve, Satan and the dinosaurs mingled on the earth 5,000 years ago?

Why put out a press release about her teenage daughter’s pregnancy and then spend the next few days attacking the press for covering that press release?

As Troopergate unfolds here — an inquiry into whether Palin inappropriately fired the commissioner of public safety for refusing to fire her ex-brother-in-law — it raises this question: Who else is on her enemies list and what might she do with the F.B.I.?

Does she want a federal ban on trans fat in restaurants and a ban on abortion and Harry Potter? And which books exactly would have landed on the literature bonfire if she had had her way with that Wasilla librarian?

Just how is it that Fannie and Freddie have cost taxpayers money (since they haven’t yet)?

Does she talk in tongues or just eat caribou tongues?

What does she have against polar bears?


Toddson - Sep 11, 2008 6:29:48 am PDT #8179 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

St. Johns Lafayette Square - presidents used to WALK to the church, since it's just across the square from the White House. (yes, it's my church ... but I conscientously avoid Shrub's usual service due to the hassles)


Jesse - Sep 11, 2008 6:31:37 am PDT #8180 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

um, Shrub does go to church sometimes, on the rare occasions he's in town and isn't too paranoid to actually drive three blocks through DC.

OK, maybe I'm behind the times, since I see this is an older article: [link]

I didn't see anything in my quick google about his having a congregation in Texas, though...


msbelle - Sep 11, 2008 6:33:04 am PDT #8181 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I have to believe that when the candidates stop talking about pigs and lipstick and start discussing some issues in a way that will actually educate some voters who need educating, that swing won't stick.

I don't - I don't think the public at large likes real discussions of the issues - I think they like soundbites and being told that they are victims and that their way of life is in danger and not understood. I think they like hearing chants of USA USA and that they want to like and feel comfortable with their leaders, not really understand issues or policies or how they've been slapped around and belittled by their best friend bubba who is really stinkin rich and has no idea what their problems are like.


Jessica - Sep 11, 2008 6:33:46 am PDT #8182 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

when the candidates stop talking about pigs and lipstick and start discussing some issues

I'm not holding my breath.

I still think Obama's gonna win, though. I think the polls showing white women "moving" to McCain are largely bullshit & that most of the women polled that way were Republicans this time last year.


brenda m - Sep 11, 2008 6:34:12 am PDT #8183 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

You know who actually went to church regularly? The Clintons. Now, maybe Methodists don't count, because they just sit there or whatever, but. No. They can all bite me.

I lived on the same block as that church - we used to call it Our Holy Lady of Law Enforcement due to all the squad cars and black SUVs out front on Sundays.