I can beat up demons until the cows come home, and then I can beat up the cows.

Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Sep 05, 2008 6:03:26 pm PDT #7474 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

That would be the MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL RECORD SETTING BRAD ZIEGLIER!!!1!

Damned straight.

Pix, I've got some articles bookmarked at home from when I was helping my cousin with her thesis research (her topic was immigration, with an emphasis on the LA area).


SuziQ - Sep 05, 2008 6:03:38 pm PDT #7475 of 10003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

My CEO brought me over a signed baseball today. No big deal, 'cept it's his nephew, Ziggy, whose signature graces it. Very cool.

VERY COOL!!!! Just a wee bit jealous here. SO COOL.


javachik - Sep 05, 2008 6:04:45 pm PDT #7476 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

VERY COOL!!!! Just a wee bit jealous here. SO COOL.

There's this kid I know, who just moved to Colorado, who could score this ball by not having any more principal-calls to his mom for the remainder of the year.


Barb - Sep 05, 2008 6:09:19 pm PDT #7477 of 10003
“Not dead yet!”

I inherited the course ("The Fractured American Dream") but not any guidance or material with which to teach it. I thought we'd do a few days on the mythos of "American Dream" and talk a bit about the ideal versus the reality through some essays about early US immigration before moving on to other facets of the dream,

Damn, Kristin, what I wouldn't give to come in there and give you a hand...


Pix - Sep 05, 2008 6:09:29 pm PDT #7478 of 10003
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Kristin, that class sounds fascinating. Maybe you could do an online version? (Kidding!)

Heh. Thanks. So far we did a concept map using about 30 quotes about the "American Dream" that I pulled from all kinds of sources, read/analyzed Lazarus' "New Colossus" (the Statue of Liberty poem) and an excerpt from a critical essay about Lazarus' "conflicting citizenships," contrasted a photograph of the Statue of Liberty with Dali's painting of the Colossus of Rhodes (Bartholdi based the SoL on earlier depictions of the Colossus) to discuss artistic purpose and message and to contrast Victorian and Classical values, and read Mary Gordon's personal essay about a woman going to visit Ellis Island because it was the only "historical American landmark" that she felt any real connection to. The quiz today was to get them to synthesize all of this information into some early thoughts about the tension between the myth of the dream and the political realities. And the first day of class was Tuesday!

ETA: Java, thank you! And Barb, if you know of any good short essays or stories about Cuban immigration under Castro, I would love to see them.

ETA#2: Jesse, thank you!!


SuziQ - Sep 05, 2008 6:11:08 pm PDT #7479 of 10003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I just read that to him (hope you don't mind). He got a big goofy grin on his face and huge eyes. We will see. I'm not above bribery at this point.


Pix - Sep 05, 2008 6:16:34 pm PDT #7480 of 10003
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Java is the best. What an awesome incentive.

Btw (and I'll really shut up after this, because I'm going to go pick megan walker up from the airport--YAY!), here's the passage from Mary Gordon's article that most shocked and horrified me:

“By the 1880’s, the facilities at Castle Garden had grown scandalously inadequate. Officials looked for an island on which to build a new immigration center, because they thought on an island immigrants could be more easily protected from swindlers and quickly transported to railroad terminals in New Jersey. Bedloe’s Island was considered, but New Yorkers were against the idea of a ‘Babel’ ruining their beautiful new treasure, ‘Liberty Enlightening the World.’ The statue’s sculptor, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, reacted to the prospect of immigrants landing next to his masterpiece in horror; he called it a ‘monstrous plan.’ So much for Emma Lazarus.”

Talk about bitter irony.


Hil R. - Sep 05, 2008 6:18:25 pm PDT #7481 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Kristin, on the Ellis Island/NYC side of it, maybe something by Anzia Yezierska? I've only read her novels, but I know she's got a few collections of short stories, too.


javachik - Sep 05, 2008 6:21:26 pm PDT #7482 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

I just read that to him (hope you don't mind).

Not at all.

He got a big goofy grin on his face and huge eyes.

Good!

We will see. I'm not above bribery at this point.

I prefer to think of it as incentive. ;)

because I'm going to go pick megan walker up from the airport--YAY!

Damn I am so wishing I could join in.


Barb - Sep 05, 2008 6:24:14 pm PDT #7483 of 10003
“Not dead yet!”

Kristin, it's perhaps a reverse of what you're looking for, but a fascinating article nevertheless:

Cuban-Americans thoughts about reclaiming their land and homes (2006). What's interesting to me about it is that this article is already over two years old-- people were planning then for Fidel and Raul Castro to eventually cede power (preferably by dying). Cubans have been planning and hoping for fifty years. A dream, regardless of what side of the border it comes from, is a powerful thing.

On This site there are a ton of links to articles and photographs. In the menu along the side, you'll see specific headings for the Balsero crisis, Mariel, Camarioca, defectors, and pretty much anything else you might want to know about. Some of the articles are in Spanish, so let me know if you need help with translations.