Thanks, folks. He was good people. It's a loss to the world--and of course to his family.
ION, I am fresh back from a scouting trip: I went to the Apple store and Best Buy to look at laptops. Since this baby crashed again on startup tonight--twice.
Have you ever been with a warrior woman?
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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Consuela - Sep 02, 2008 7:25:04 pm PDT #6739 of 10003
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
beth b - Sep 02, 2008 7:30:22 pm PDT #6740 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
I'm sorry about your friend, Consuela
Liese S. - Sep 02, 2008 7:42:00 pm PDT #6741 of 10003
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Condolences, Consuela.
Did you find anything good on your trip? I hate Best Buy, but I couldn't pass up the deal on this laptop.
In my other news, thanks Steph! I got your sodamixes for my penguin today! They are awesome.
The SO made ginger ale today from ginger. It is yum, but was very strong, so we had to add extra selzer.
megan walker - Sep 02, 2008 7:47:19 pm PDT #6742 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Sure picking Palin is relevant. Palin's daughter's pregnancy is I think irrelevant.
I disagree. And it has nothing to do with morality.
It's a (potential) huge distraction for her. I know people who thought that Edwards was a problematic candidate for a similar reason (because of his wife's illness not the other thing). I didn't, but I think that it's entirely appropriate to include that factor in evaluating whether one should choose this person to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. As such, it's news.
And the fact that McCain selected Palin, after he supposedly knew about this and the reaction that it might elicit? Sorry, but I think that's also important information. To again refer to Edwards, if Obama had picked him knowing what was going to come out about his affair, I would think it showed lack of judgement/political saavy.
Whether or not Obama should be discussing Palin is a whole other issue. And, I agree, that would be unwise for all the reasons listed.
I'm not happy to see the news harping on it, but the news talking about something and Obama's campaign talking about something are two different things in my mind.
SuziQ - Sep 02, 2008 7:52:29 pm PDT #6743 of 10003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame
Just to play devil's advocate...would we be having the same discussions if Palin had a penis instead of a vagina?
A male VP candidate with a 4 month old Downs baby and a 17 year old pregnant daughter would NOT cause the same stir.
§ ita § - Sep 02, 2008 7:54:03 pm PDT #6744 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss, 'Suela.
megan walker - Sep 02, 2008 7:57:51 pm PDT #6745 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Just to play devil's advocate...would we be having the same discussions if Palin had a penis instead of a vagina?
Well, I used a man in my examples.
But, I also think the sad reality is that caregiving duties are not generally shared 50-50, nor do many people think they should be. And, as a politician, you have to deal with that reality.
Connie Neil - Sep 02, 2008 7:58:08 pm PDT #6746 of 10003
brillig
A male VP candidate with a 4 month old Downs baby and a 17 year old pregnant daughter would NOT cause the same stir.
Possibly not the Downs portion, but I think the 17-year-old unmarried daughter would still be a point, especially Dad was big in "abstinence is the only way" etc. Kind of like Larry Craig's wide stance.
beth b - Sep 02, 2008 7:59:27 pm PDT #6747 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
a 17 year old pregnant daughter would NOT cause the same stir.
Actually, it would only bug me if the male candidate believed in abstinence only sex ed. and it only bugs because I prefer a candidate with a grasp of reality
§ ita § - Sep 02, 2008 7:59:40 pm PDT #6748 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
A male VP candidate with a 4 month old Downs baby and a 17 year old pregnant daughter would NOT cause the same stir.
I'd like to think the pregnant daughter would cause the same issue. I don't get the Down's stir, so I can't comment on it.
Watching 90210 I think my favourites are easy ones: Naveed and Ryan. I totally loved Linda Gray but I doubt we'll see that much of her. And how obvious was it that the pentapus was going to show up again?
Oddly I'm noticing our lead adults switch sides in bed.