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Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

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Jessica - Sep 02, 2008 6:31:08 am PDT #6614 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The more Republican spokespeople keep citing the PTA and being close to Russia as elements of her qualifications, the easier it gets to make the (legitimate, IMO) argument that her inexperience isn't in the same ballpark as Obama's.

No kidding.

The "Alaska is close to Russia" thing is the both funniest & most pathetic mad scramble for legitimacy I think I've ever heard. It's like an SNL parody of something a real person might say.


Trudy Booth - Sep 02, 2008 6:31:42 am PDT #6615 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

(What I'd also like to see more of a focus on - not just that she has no foreign policy experience but that she has demonstrated not even the slightest interest in it. I think that's more troubling than her actual background in some ways.)

Considering she didn't get her passport until last year, when she went to Kuwait and Iraq (with a layover in Ireland that she's claiming counts for a visit to a third country), they can definitely hammer her on foreign policy experience.

Weren't both of these basically true for Bush? And both attacked fruitlessly?

The "Alaska is close to Russia" thing is the both funniest & most pathetic mad scramble for legitimacy I think I've ever heard. It's like an SNL parody of something a real person might say.

They said the same thing about Texas & Mexico. And yet, it was not absurd enough.

More and more, I think she's Bush II. Deliberately.


tommyrot - Sep 02, 2008 6:34:19 am PDT #6616 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Weren't both of these basically true for Bush?

Yep. Although in Bush's defense, he did cite Cheney as having lots o' foreign policy cred. So maybe Republicans think that only one person on the presidential ticket needs any foreign policy interest.


Jessica - Sep 02, 2008 6:37:23 am PDT #6617 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

They said the same thing about Texas & Mexico.

Okay, but at least Texas and Mexico share a border that hasn't been underwater since before the beginnings of human civilization.


tommyrot - Sep 02, 2008 6:37:38 am PDT #6618 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I wanna see Biden ask her in the debate, "Do you think Alaska should secede from the United States?" And, "Do you still agree with the following Alaskan Independence Party positions?: '[a] belief that the federal government should be dissolved if gun rights are ever abolished or curtailed, a belief that the federal government is in breach of the Constitution, and complete opposition to environmental regulations and public ownership of Alaskan land.'"


tommyrot - Sep 02, 2008 6:38:54 am PDT #6619 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

at least Texas and Mexico share a border that hasn't been underwater since before the beginnings of human civilization.

Maybe global warming is an Alaskan plot to make the Bering Strait deeper, thus making it harder for the Russians to invade....


Theodosia - Sep 02, 2008 6:39:54 am PDT #6620 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

She's got all the signs of being able to be led easily by pushing the right buttons, that worked so well for the Neocons with Bush II.


Jessica - Sep 02, 2008 6:40:15 am PDT #6621 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Maybe global warming is an Alaskan plot to make the Bering Strait deeper, thus making it harder for the Russians to invade....

Ooh, they're crafty!


tommyrot - Sep 02, 2008 6:49:49 am PDT #6622 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yet another Palin scandal, this one worse than all the others:

ALASKA PIPELINE: Amy Gwin, 43, of University City, grew up in Alaska and competed in the Miss Wasilla, Alaska, competition in 1984 against GOP vice presidential choice Sarah Palin. Gwin said Friday that she won the Miss Congeniality award in the competition, although Palin's Wikipedia entry says she won the contest — and the Miss Congeniality award. Gwin was a year behind Palin, now 44, at Wasilla High School, which had about 800 students. Gwin said Palin was "a high school star in a good way," a beauty who got good grades and excelled at athletics. Gwin, who was president of her class, does not recall Palin holding school office. The Wikipedia entry on Palin said she was head of the school's Fellowship of Christian Athletes and captain of the basketball team.

Palin was a high school star, says schoolmate


Theodosia - Sep 02, 2008 6:53:43 am PDT #6623 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I think that the best evidence of Palin's unfitness for office is accepting McCain's invitation. The VPship isn't a lottery prize that you take without serious and long consideration. At least Romney and Lieberman and a long list of other possible choices he had had seriously sought high office and had a long time to consider what they were getting into.