My love for me now / Ain't hard to explain / The Hero of Canton / The man they call...ME.

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Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - Sep 02, 2008 6:22:22 am PDT #6609 of 10003
Librarian Warlord

But in order for the Democrats (not necessarily official Obama statements) to address the fact that a grossly inexperienced politician would be a heartbeat away from being POTUS in a situation where McCain kicking off is plausible, then they have to be willing to accept Republican attacks on Obama's perceived inexperience.

Which is why the Obama camp has to frame this as criticizing inexperience because she tries to substitute being morally upright for having the chops to study/make policy decisions.


Allyson - Sep 02, 2008 6:24:31 am PDT #6610 of 10003
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

But too complex for soundbite politics.

I've got no worries, and now I'm really really ordering a whole tanker truck full o' popcorn for the debates.

It's going to be like Best of Fandom_wank, only in an actually affects my life dire circumstances kind of way.


brenda m - Sep 02, 2008 6:26:03 am PDT #6611 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The more Republican spokespeople keep citing the PTA and being close to Russia as elements of her qualifications, the easier it gets to make the (legitimate, IMO) argument that her inexperience isn't in the same ballpark as Obama's.

(What I'd also like to see more of a focus on - not just that she has no foreign policy experience but that she has demonstrated not even the slightest interest in it. I think that's more troubling than her actual background in some ways.)


Kathy A - Sep 02, 2008 6:27:51 am PDT #6612 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Considering she didn't get her passport until last year, when she went to Kuwait and Iraq (with a layover in Ireland that she's claiming counts for a visit to a third country), they can definitely hammer her on foreign policy experience.


tommyrot - Sep 02, 2008 6:28:21 am PDT #6613 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It appears that Palin still wants Alaska to secede from the United States. Recapping Palin's Secession Scandal

# In 2007, the Vice Chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark, not only referenced Palin's membership [in the GOP], but also said that since she joined the GOP, "she is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership." Clark also goes on to discuss the need to "infiltrate" the major parties.
# In 2008, Palin recorded a message for the AIP's annual convention, stating that Alaska has "a great promise to be a self-sufficient state" and encouraging them to "keep up the good work."


Jessica - Sep 02, 2008 6:31:08 am PDT #6614 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The more Republican spokespeople keep citing the PTA and being close to Russia as elements of her qualifications, the easier it gets to make the (legitimate, IMO) argument that her inexperience isn't in the same ballpark as Obama's.

No kidding.

The "Alaska is close to Russia" thing is the both funniest & most pathetic mad scramble for legitimacy I think I've ever heard. It's like an SNL parody of something a real person might say.


Trudy Booth - Sep 02, 2008 6:31:42 am PDT #6615 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

(What I'd also like to see more of a focus on - not just that she has no foreign policy experience but that she has demonstrated not even the slightest interest in it. I think that's more troubling than her actual background in some ways.)

Considering she didn't get her passport until last year, when she went to Kuwait and Iraq (with a layover in Ireland that she's claiming counts for a visit to a third country), they can definitely hammer her on foreign policy experience.

Weren't both of these basically true for Bush? And both attacked fruitlessly?

The "Alaska is close to Russia" thing is the both funniest & most pathetic mad scramble for legitimacy I think I've ever heard. It's like an SNL parody of something a real person might say.

They said the same thing about Texas & Mexico. And yet, it was not absurd enough.

More and more, I think she's Bush II. Deliberately.


tommyrot - Sep 02, 2008 6:34:19 am PDT #6616 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Weren't both of these basically true for Bush?

Yep. Although in Bush's defense, he did cite Cheney as having lots o' foreign policy cred. So maybe Republicans think that only one person on the presidential ticket needs any foreign policy interest.


Jessica - Sep 02, 2008 6:37:23 am PDT #6617 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

They said the same thing about Texas & Mexico.

Okay, but at least Texas and Mexico share a border that hasn't been underwater since before the beginnings of human civilization.


tommyrot - Sep 02, 2008 6:37:38 am PDT #6618 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I wanna see Biden ask her in the debate, "Do you think Alaska should secede from the United States?" And, "Do you still agree with the following Alaskan Independence Party positions?: '[a] belief that the federal government should be dissolved if gun rights are ever abolished or curtailed, a belief that the federal government is in breach of the Constitution, and complete opposition to environmental regulations and public ownership of Alaskan land.'"