Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?

'Trash'


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Typo Boy - Aug 28, 2008 6:46:52 pm PDT #6056 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I thought the speech was great too. Not that there are not large parts I disagree with. But I'm pretty sure that whether I agree with them or not they represent real beliefs Obama has - even if some of them appeal to America's worse rather than better angels. In terms of being independent of foreign oil in ten years, it is possible - expensive, but physically possible, and the expense is not out of line if it is a priority. Mind you I think a better goal for the next ten years is Gore's coal of 100% carbon free electricity combined with phasing out most long haul trucking. But if reducing oil consumption by 70% was the priority there are ways to do it.


Steph L. - Aug 28, 2008 6:53:45 pm PDT #6057 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I was thinking mostly about the colors.

Absolutely -- it was a gorgeous, rich color scheme, and the girls' lighter dresses were a.dor.a.ble.

I have to say, again, when Obama walked out on the dais, I was struck by how sure I am that he's going to win.

And then he essentially told McCain, "Bring it, bitch," and he blew that stadium wide open.

The rest was just icing.

I liked how, when he was evoking Dr. King's speech, his delivery got preacher-esque. And I LOVED his little self-amused grin after "eight is enough." Kind of a "Yeah, I went there...god, I can't believe I just said that," grin.

He was...I want to say "presidential," but I don't feel that from him, yet. He's still the candidate. And that's okay. I remember Bill Clinton being the same way, right up until he took the oath of office.

I guess what I want to say is that what I saw in Obama tonight is more than excellent oratory, and more than blazing intelligence, both of which have been obvious all along -- I saw the kind of president he can be, and I want that. More to the point, I think that this country *needs* it.

Please Vishnu.


SuziQ - Aug 28, 2008 6:57:50 pm PDT #6058 of 10003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I'm still freaking weepy and afraid to be optimistic. The idea that all this was happening within a few miles of me has added a surreal edge to watching his speech on tv.


javachik - Aug 28, 2008 6:58:31 pm PDT #6059 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

I am laughing like a loooooon because Pat Freaking Buchanan is GUSHING over Obama. HA!

Also, Obama didn't say that within 10 years, we'd not need foreign oil; he specified the mideast.

Which made me, of course, laugh and say to myself, "yeah, we'll just buddy up with Hugo Chavez".


tommyrot - Aug 28, 2008 6:59:02 pm PDT #6060 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Please Vishnu.

Sorry, Vishnu's a PUMA.


brenda m - Aug 28, 2008 7:00:13 pm PDT #6061 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Blasphemer!


Typo Boy - Aug 28, 2008 7:03:17 pm PDT #6062 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah I agree it is a great speech and that Obama and the Democrats will be light years better than the Republicans.

Most of the things I don't like he probably had to do. The one thing I don't think was absolutely necessary and wish had not been done was the "only in America" bit. There are wonderful things about our country, but we can love those things without pretending other nations don't have them too. The U.S. is NOT unique in offering opportunities to for poor and middle class people to grow up and become rich or powerful. Why the hell does loving America have to include putting down everyone else?


§ ita § - Aug 28, 2008 7:09:34 pm PDT #6063 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I kind of assumed that he got caught.

David, David, David.


Pix - Aug 28, 2008 7:09:58 pm PDT #6064 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

Okay, I've been out of the loop all week because of the whole ER thing, but I just went into the video archives to watch a few of this week's speeches. Biden hit it out of the park! I wasn't sure about that choice last week when I first heard it, but I'd forgotten how inspirational he can be. Put him up against anyone in the VP debate, and I think he's going to shine. And Obama vs. McCain? Please.

I'm feeling excited for the first time in four years. I'm daring to hope.


Typo Boy - Aug 28, 2008 7:11:42 pm PDT #6065 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

After that speech no one will call him Obambi again. Man is not only a great orator: he can throw a punch.