Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Aug 28, 2008 7:00:13 pm PDT #6061 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Blasphemer!


Typo Boy - Aug 28, 2008 7:03:17 pm PDT #6062 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah I agree it is a great speech and that Obama and the Democrats will be light years better than the Republicans.

Most of the things I don't like he probably had to do. The one thing I don't think was absolutely necessary and wish had not been done was the "only in America" bit. There are wonderful things about our country, but we can love those things without pretending other nations don't have them too. The U.S. is NOT unique in offering opportunities to for poor and middle class people to grow up and become rich or powerful. Why the hell does loving America have to include putting down everyone else?


§ ita § - Aug 28, 2008 7:09:34 pm PDT #6063 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I kind of assumed that he got caught.

David, David, David.


Pix - Aug 28, 2008 7:09:58 pm PDT #6064 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

Okay, I've been out of the loop all week because of the whole ER thing, but I just went into the video archives to watch a few of this week's speeches. Biden hit it out of the park! I wasn't sure about that choice last week when I first heard it, but I'd forgotten how inspirational he can be. Put him up against anyone in the VP debate, and I think he's going to shine. And Obama vs. McCain? Please.

I'm feeling excited for the first time in four years. I'm daring to hope.


Typo Boy - Aug 28, 2008 7:11:42 pm PDT #6065 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

After that speech no one will call him Obambi again. Man is not only a great orator: he can throw a punch.


tommyrot - Aug 28, 2008 7:13:54 pm PDT #6066 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Andrew Sullivan (an Obama supporter) was gushing:

It was a deeply substantive speech, full of policy detail, full of people other than the candidate, centered overwhelmingly on domestic economic anxiety. It was a liberal speech, more unabashedly, unashamedly liberal than any Democratic acceptance speech since the great era of American liberalism. But it made the case for that liberalism - in the context of the decline of the American dream, and the rise of cynicism and the collapse of cultural unity. His ability to portray that liberalism as a patriotic, unifying, ennobling tradition makes him the most lethal and remarkable Democratic figure since John F Kennedy.

What he didn't do was give an airy, abstract, dreamy confection of rhetoric. The McCain campaign set Obama up as a celebrity airhead, a Paris Hilton of wealth and elitism. And he let them portray him that way, and let them over-reach, and let them punch him again and again ... and then he turned around and destroyed them. If the Rove Republicans thought they were playing with a patsy, they just got a reality check.

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Connie Neil - Aug 28, 2008 7:18:42 pm PDT #6067 of 10003
brillig

Apparently McCain's unprecedented ad is a positive ad congratulating Obama for his legitmately historic achievement as a solid Presidential candidate who is also black. Would that we could see that kind of class on a regular basis.


Steph L. - Aug 28, 2008 7:20:03 pm PDT #6068 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

If the Rove Republicans thought they were playing with a patsy, they just got a reality check.

I think that's so, definitely. He had to pull off this speech being the rock star AND the statesman, and he *so* did it.

Obviously, for the convention crowd, he didn't need to be the rock star; he already was. But for the media and the pundits, this speech of all speeches had to have that Obama quality that, for lack of a better term, makes him a fucking rock star. That's the Obama that's been running this campaign, and to be anything less would call into question his motivation, at least in the eyes of the punditry.

But he's Obama. Of course he did it.

I wondered how presidential he could be; not even Bill Clinton seemed presidential when he accepted in 1992, and the man went on to be a truly great president.

But DAMN, did Obama deliver. It's like he was saving it all until now, just waiting to tell McCain to bring it (bitch).


Steph L. - Aug 28, 2008 7:22:04 pm PDT #6069 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Apparently McCain's unprecedented ad is a positive ad congratulating Obama for his legitmately historic achievement as a solid Presidential candidate who is also black. Would that we could see that kind of class on a regular basis.

Huh. That IS unprecedented.


ChiKat - Aug 28, 2008 7:48:17 pm PDT #6070 of 10003
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Dudes...tell me to stop watching Fox News. I occassionally tune in to get conservative viewpoints, but I end up just yelling at the tv and scaring the cat.