I don't care if it is an orgy of death, there's still such a thing as a napkin.

Willow ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Aug 28, 2008 6:18:26 am PDT #5838 of 10003
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's odd. I have no doubt at all that Obama will be the next PotUS. And I think the debates will be the clincher.

I'm rarely optimistic. I didn't think Kerry would win at all, so didn't suffer the same sort of shock I saw in a lot of Buffistas. Disappointment, but not shock.


tommyrot - Aug 28, 2008 6:22:11 am PDT #5839 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Tommyrot - did you hear Mayor Daley's intro to Illinois? You know - Chicago where the White Sox will play the Cubs in a subway series? Made me laugh!

Heh.


Cashmere - Aug 28, 2008 6:22:59 am PDT #5840 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

It's odd. I have no doubt at all that Obama will be the next PotUS.

Allyson is me.


Trudy Booth - Aug 28, 2008 6:23:47 am PDT #5841 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It's odd. I have no doubt at all that Obama will be the next PotUS.

I will literally weep.


Steph L. - Aug 28, 2008 6:25:25 am PDT #5842 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I thought that they should have played Clinton on with some James Brown or possibly some ZZ Top. (I was thinking "Sharp Dressed Man.")

Oh, man. When they played "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow" as he came on, I started crying. I remember everything about election day 1992, including the Clintons and Gores celebrating with that song blasting in the background. Ever since Bush won in 2000, I have to change the channel when it comes on the radio.


Typo Boy - Aug 28, 2008 6:25:33 am PDT #5843 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, I'm actually optimistic about Obama winning too - not certain, but think the odds are in his favor. But I'm pessimistic about what happens next. He, like Hillary, is a cautious centrist - who won't make the changes we need. And unlike Roosevelt, there is not serious grassroots movement that will push him: Moveone and the rest of the "netroots"? Not strong enough, and not independent enough of the Democratic party to push the changes needed.


tommyrot - Aug 28, 2008 6:25:39 am PDT #5844 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

And I think the debates will be the clincher.

Yeah, that's what I'm pining my hopes on.

If only Obama can provoke something like this (in an interview with Time ):

There's a theme that recurs in your books and your speeches, both about putting country first but also about honor. I wonder if you could define honor for us?

Read it in my books.

I've read your books.

No, I'm not going to define it.

But honor in politics?

I defined it in five books. Read my books.

(I've heard McCain tends to get angry easily...)


Kathy A - Aug 28, 2008 6:29:33 am PDT #5845 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

If Obama is elected and the Cubs win the World Series, I swear my head will explode, as I won't be able to handle that much happiness....

My head will be all explode-y as well. If that happened, and if Chicago gets the 2016 Olympics when they announce next year, it'll truly be a Chicago Year.

(I'm not going to jinx the Cubs, but I just wanted to mention that their sweeping the Pirates meant that they have won nine series in a row for the first time since 1907. Also, they're 33 games over .500 for the first time since 1945, the last time they won the NL pennant. Go Cubs!)


Steph L. - Aug 28, 2008 6:33:22 am PDT #5846 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It's odd. I have no doubt at all that Obama will be the next PotUS.

I will literally weep.

Me, too.


Theodosia - Aug 28, 2008 6:41:49 am PDT #5847 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Given that I felt like crying when Kerry lost -- and I don't even like him that much -- I will certainly get emotional if Obama wins.

4 years ago, I remember a friend commenting that one of her conservative friends got nervous when she saw the liberals acting like somebody died when Kerry lost -- "It's making me feel like if this many people think it's a disaster, maybe I missed something?" I really wish I remembered whose friend said it so I could look her up and shake her by the lapels and say, "Do you GET IT now?"