Does anybody else miss the Mayor? 'I just want to be a big snake.'

Xander ,'End of Days'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nora Deirdre - Aug 28, 2008 4:30:15 am PDT #5813 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Happy birthday Casper!

I am really trying not to get emotionally involved in the election. Tom has pretty much convinced me that McCain will win, so I'm expecting that and if it doesn't happen, it will be a lovely surprise!

I cannot go through what happened in 2004 again. I do not trust the voters to get a clue because they re-elected Bush and McCain is comparatively better. Also I think there will be some racism brought to bear.

I am pessimistic. I don't want to be optimistic. 2004 almost killed me.


sarameg - Aug 28, 2008 4:37:33 am PDT #5814 of 10003

I'm trying to work. Except I need to send mail to do that and the mail server is down. It's frustrating!


Kat - Aug 28, 2008 4:38:23 am PDT #5815 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I am really trying not to get emotionally involved in the election. Tom has pretty much convinced me that McCain will win, so I'm expecting that and if it doesn't happen, it will be a lovely surprise!

Tom hasn't convinced me, but I think McCain might win. After being in Ohio for a few days and catching commercials where McCain is making a huge play for Clinton supporters, I have to say, it might work. (The commercials show Clinton talking about how she has experience and McCain has experience and Obama has a good speech... or they show women talking about how they were Clinton supporters who are now voting for McCain). Ugh.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 28, 2008 4:40:35 am PDT #5816 of 10003
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

That's pretty much how I feel Nora. Except every time I see Obama speak...

I may need to not watch any television for the next 3 months.


tommyrot - Aug 28, 2008 4:47:06 am PDT #5817 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The commercials show Clinton talking about how she has experience and McCain has experience and Obama has a good speech... or they show women talking about how they were Clinton supporters who are now voting for McCain

Supposedly a lot of former Clinton supporters who now support McCain are not aware that McCain is anti-abortion. As the campaign switches into high gear, I think these people will learn this....

But I'm getting more pessimistic as well. It's infuriating how the media gives McCain a free pass on his idiotic statements....


CaBil - Aug 28, 2008 4:51:01 am PDT #5818 of 10003
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Happy bday Casper!


Kat - Aug 28, 2008 4:52:17 am PDT #5819 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I don't think it's true that he gets a free pass (lots of play of the houses thing). But I do think idiocy in our leaders has become acceptable or at least expected. I wish that you could run an intelligence vs. experience commercial (VO:"All the experience in the world doesn't mean anything if you never learn anything from it....") But maybe I feel that way because I'm an elitist.


Barb - Aug 28, 2008 5:05:39 am PDT #5820 of 10003
“Not dead yet!”

Happy Birthday, Casper! (Wow, five is such a fun age.)


Gudanov - Aug 28, 2008 5:10:58 am PDT #5821 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

None of the serious candidates doubts that we should have a military budget as big or bigger than the entire rest of the world.

Yeah, that bothers me too. I think economic and technological strength will be more important to our future security than being able to project power unilaterally.

I'm also bothered about the idea that we need to build up our military to combat terrorism. I guess it sounds good on the stump, but I think building up intelligence capabilities, working with other countries, and non-proliferation efforts are far more important.


Gudanov - Aug 28, 2008 5:11:25 am PDT #5822 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

Happy Birthday Casper!