We use the latest in scientific technology and state-of-the-art weaponry and you, if I understand correctly, poke them with a sharp stick.

Dr. Walsh ,'Potential'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Aug 26, 2008 9:46:49 am PDT #5463 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

"If they are under my desk, I will feel free TO KICK THEM"

I would! I think my minion is nicer than I.


sumi - Aug 26, 2008 9:51:13 am PDT #5464 of 10003
Art Crawl!!!

"less thoughtful" - but we've had 8 full years of less thoughtful. I'm ready for "more thoughtful" . . . okay, pretty much anyone would be more thoughtful.

ION, Cockerpoo scares away bears.


flea - Aug 26, 2008 9:56:24 am PDT #5465 of 10003
information libertarian

Whee, we just had a tornado evacuation! Note that I work in one of the largest buildings on campus. Oh, the masses of humanity crowded into the windowless lowest level for half an hour.


erikaj - Aug 26, 2008 9:57:53 am PDT #5466 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

I think the convention is really good so far. But I'm the base, I'm supposed to think that!


megan walker - Aug 26, 2008 9:58:34 am PDT #5467 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I wish I had seen some of the convention stuff last night, but it was worth missing it to see shrift!

With the various judging controversies at this Olympics, I was wondering last night about what the medal counts would be without these sports (I was also bored and waiting for dinner with Buffistas).

I eliminated sports that involve subjective judging (diving, equestrian dressage, gymnastics, synchronized swimming), or sports with more technical judging methods (boxing, taekwondo, wrestling) where judges have been called into question this Olympics.

I used the first 12 countries in both total medals and golds, giving a list of 13 countries. In total medals there was very little change in country standings; however there was a bit more shifting around if you only consider gold medals, with Russia losing the most standing.

Here are the results of my boredom:

Total Medals:
All Current Sports (Sports without Subjective Judging)

US, 110 (US, 93)
China, 100 (China, 61)
Russia, 72 (Russia, 47)
Great Britain, 47 (Australia, 44)
Australia, 46 (Great Britain, 42)
Germany, 41 (Germany, 33)
France, 40 (France, 32)
South Korea, 31 (South Korea, 24)
Italy, 28 (Italy, 23)
Ukraine, 27 (Ukraine, 17)
Japan, 25 (Japan, 16)
Cuba, 24 (Netherlands, 16)
Netherlands, 16 (Cuba, 14)

Gold Medals:
All Current Sports (Sports without Subjective Judging)

China, 51 (US, 33)
US, 36 (China, 29)
Russia, 23 (Great Britain, 18)
Great Britain, 19 (Germany, 15)
Germany, 16 (Australia, 13)
Australia, 14 (Russia, 12)
South Korea, 13 (South Korea, 9)
Japan, 9 (Japan, 7)
Italy, 8 (Netherlands, 7)
France, 7 (France, 6)
Netherlands, 7 (Italy, 6)
Ukraine, 7 (Ukraine, 6)
Cuba, 2 (Cuba, 1)

I also figured out medals for my ideal Olympics, which would have no baseball, badminton, basketball, beach volleyball, BMX, boxing, equestrian dressage (as a separate event), rhythmic gymnastics, soccer, softball, synchronized swimming, table tennis, tennis, trampoline, or water polo. This really didn't change the current standings all that much, mostly because these sports produce only one or two medal each.

Megan's Olympics, Total Medals:

US, 95
China, 72
Russia, 61
Great Britain, 44
Australia, 43
Germany, 36
France, 35
Italy, 25
South Korea, 24
Ukraine, 24
Japan, 23
Cuba, 15
Netherlands, 15

Megan's Olympics, Gold Medals

China, 40
US, 30
Great Britain, 18
Russia, 17
Germany, 15
Australia, 14
South Korea, 11
Japan, 8
Italy, 7
France, 6
Ukraine, 6
Netherlands, 6
Cuba, 2


Shir - Aug 26, 2008 10:14:37 am PDT #5468 of 10003
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Happy birthday, lisah!

Hil, what Israeli movie are you watching? (Grammar?)

And hey, I'm NEVER leaving home again. Crazy people outside, folks. Except for tomorrow. And the day after tomorrow. And so on. Sigh.


§ ita § - Aug 26, 2008 10:17:23 am PDT #5469 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How come Jamaica doesn't rank in your Olympics, gold medal version, megan? Usain alone has more than Cuba.

Lord, I'm slow. Happy birthday, lisah!


Trudy Booth - Aug 26, 2008 10:23:43 am PDT #5470 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

This really didn't change the current standings all that much, mostly because these sports produce only one or two medal each.

That always bugs me. I mean, not to take a THING away from Phelps or any other swimmer, but you are up for a whole lot of medals there. There are plenty of sports where you've got just one shot. I'm sure if you had, say, ten individual decathlon medals along with the "all around" we have now Spitz's record could have been broken that way. Is it even possible for a non-swimmer to get that many medals in one Olympics? I suppose a male gymnast could.


Strega - Aug 26, 2008 10:27:56 am PDT #5471 of 10003

Yeah, but it's essentially tossing my vote in the garbage.

I really don't understand the idea that voting for a candidate you genuinely support is a waste. Voting for a candidate you don't particularly like seems like a much bigger waste to me. I'd rather people not vote at all than do that, because I think that the "lesser evil" attitude is how we got here. Nobody's gonna put a radical candidate up there if they can get your vote anyway.


megan walker - Aug 26, 2008 10:28:54 am PDT #5472 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

How come Jamaica doesn't rank in your Olympics, gold medal version, megan?

Hah! Sorry. I later looked back at I saw Jamaica just missed the cutoff and thought "ita's not going to be happy about that."

I took the top 12 in each ranking (total and golds), the only difference being Cuba on one list and The Netherlands on the other. I think Jamaica is 13th in golds.

It turned out to be a bit of a pain when I realized that Yahoo's country listings are missing a few events and I had to go and figure out what the missing medals were in.