I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Aug 26, 2008 9:00:24 am PDT #5436 of 10003

I'm not sure if an African American, pro-gay, keep your hands off women's reproductive rights, non-Christian candidate would get elected in the US. But it would be lovely to see one try.

Dude. Half of America already thinks an African American Gay Muslim Abortionist IS in danger of being elected this fall, what are you talking about??


P.M. Marc - Aug 26, 2008 9:01:31 am PDT #5437 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I may have overstated. There has been nothing but rumors of support from groups and organizations that are aligned with a more conservative Christian outlook. I extrapolated off an assumption, for which I apologize.

He does have support from some people who were once on the forefront of the conservative Christian movement, but have moved from it after seeing the way that the GOP twisted their values. (The one editorial I read by one of them said, effectively, no I don't like that he's pro-choice, but frankly, his proposed policies would do a lot more to reduce the number of abortions than 8 years of Bush did.)

There's some overlap between people who have conservative interpretations of Christianity who want to, you know, live like Christ, help the poor, steward the earth, blah blah blah, and the more liberal side of things. Which, after all the polarizing, is perhaps our only hope for humanity.


Gudanov - Aug 26, 2008 9:03:37 am PDT #5438 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

I wish I could vote for a candidate that thought my rights were worth protecting instead of simply the "lesser of two evils."

It's sad that it is a radioactive issue. I was sort of a civil-unions-instead guy until the issue really blew up and the one-man-one-woman legislation started up in earnest. That just turned me straight up pro gay marriage.


Calli - Aug 26, 2008 9:08:10 am PDT #5439 of 10003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Half of America already thinks an African American Gay Muslim Abortionist IS in danger of being elected this fall,

True. But most of those people would assume any Democratic candidate was at least half of those thing just because they were running as Democrats.


Glamcookie - Aug 26, 2008 9:08:55 am PDT #5440 of 10003
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

You realize you probably can, right? Depending on what the ballot restrictions are where you live, anyway.

Yeah, but it's essentially tossing my vote in the garbage. And I definitely don't want McCain.

I know that politicians have to walk a fine line to get elected but when they're reducing you, your family, and your friends to second class citizens, does it really matter why? Grr.


Jesse - Aug 26, 2008 9:10:09 am PDT #5441 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I did take the week off and it's still made of argh. Most recent news about our stranding car situation? Fixed problem A with second iteration of part, revealing problem B with the exhaust, which shop A does not do. Shop A is sending the car over to Shop B and presumably paying for it, but end result? Still stranded.

That is full of argh! Argh.

There's some overlap between people who have conservative interpretations of Christianity who want to, you know, live like Christ, help the poor, steward the earth, blah blah blah, and the more liberal side of things. Which, after all the polarizing, is perhaps our only hope for humanity.

Yeah, this.


Steph L. - Aug 26, 2008 9:14:56 am PDT #5442 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

You realize you probably can, right? Depending on what the ballot restrictions are where you live, anyway.

Yeah, but it's essentially tossing my vote in the garbage. And I definitely don't want McCain.

The PUMAs would have you believe that President McCain is worth it in order to Send A Message to the Democratic party.

I'm not sure what that message is, though, other than, We're pissed that our candidate didn't win.


Calli - Aug 26, 2008 9:17:14 am PDT #5443 of 10003
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm kind of relieved that my candidate (Edwards) didn't win, in retrospect. Can someone turn "Thank God we didn't have an infidelity-based impeachment trial before we even had the freaking election," into a catchy acronym?


Jessica - Aug 26, 2008 9:20:21 am PDT #5444 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The PUMAs would have you believe that President McCain is worth it in order to Send A Message to the Democratic party.

Yes, but those people are CRAZY.


Trudy Booth - Aug 26, 2008 9:21:50 am PDT #5445 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I see "PUMA" and I think "they hit on younger delegates?"