This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amych - Jul 28, 2008 10:15:12 am PDT #9958 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Woo-hoo! Google and chili sounds like a fabulous Monday!


Jesse - Jul 28, 2008 10:17:42 am PDT #9959 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Woo hoo, shrift!! Fingers crossed!!!


Sophia Brooks - Jul 28, 2008 10:20:02 am PDT #9960 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Yay shrift!


Trudy Booth - Jul 28, 2008 10:20:35 am PDT #9961 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'd think most "Academic Class" are middle class. Sometimes they came from money or poverty and make or lose money, but its basically Respectable Middle Class.

It seems like a lot of Americans would like to think that we don't HAVE class divisions, that its somehow unamerican to think in those terms. And that may have been some early utopian meritocracy vision of what the Republic would be... but what wound up happening is that we do have social classes, we just have the not-so-common in the world ability to switch between them.


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2008 10:29:07 am PDT #9962 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we just have the not-so-common in the world ability to switch between them

I was just watching a documentary about China yesterday, and they were giving examples of class switching. Once China's doing it, it's almost by default not uncommon anymore, no?

Asks she with the cousin who was one generation from barefoot-to-school and now sits in British Parliament.


Jesse - Jul 28, 2008 10:31:09 am PDT #9963 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Speaking of class.... [link]


sarameg - Jul 28, 2008 10:36:35 am PDT #9964 of 10003

A NANNY FOR A COLLEGE FRESHMAN.


sarameg - Jul 28, 2008 10:37:18 am PDT #9965 of 10003

I'm sorry, I couldn't get past that part.


Trudy Booth - Jul 28, 2008 10:37:24 am PDT #9966 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

"historically-not-so-common" then?

And is the cousin greeted with open arms by Lord Such-and-such's family if she wants to marry him? (Its an honest question.)


DavidS - Jul 28, 2008 10:37:32 am PDT #9967 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm not sure if "middle class" is a useful term.

As one social scientist noted, 85% of Americans consider themselves "middle class" but it means very different things to them. From well paid union labor to middle management to small business owners etc.