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Trudy Booth - Jul 28, 2008 10:20:35 am PDT #9961 of 10003

Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'd think most "Academic Class" are middle class. Sometimes they came from money or poverty and make or lose money, but its basically Respectable Middle Class.

It seems like a lot of Americans would like to think that we don't HAVE class divisions, that its somehow unamerican to think in those terms. And that may have been some early utopian meritocracy vision of what the Republic would be... but what wound up happening is that we do have social classes, we just have the not-so-common in the world ability to switch between them.

§ ita § - Jul 28, 2008 10:29:07 am PDT #9962 of 10003

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we just have the not-so-common in the world ability to switch between them

I was just watching a documentary about China yesterday, and they were giving examples of class switching. Once China's doing it, it's almost by default not uncommon anymore, no?

Asks she with the cousin who was one generation from barefoot-to-school and now sits in British Parliament.

Jesse - Jul 28, 2008 10:31:09 am PDT #9963 of 10003

Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Speaking of class.... [link]

sarameg - Jul 28, 2008 10:36:35 am PDT #9964 of 10003

A NANNY FOR A COLLEGE FRESHMAN.

sarameg - Jul 28, 2008 10:37:18 am PDT #9965 of 10003

I'm sorry, I couldn't get past that part.

Trudy Booth - Jul 28, 2008 10:37:24 am PDT #9966 of 10003

Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

"historically-not-so-common" then?

And is the cousin greeted with open arms by Lord Such-and-such's family if she wants to marry him? (Its an honest question.)

DavidS - Jul 28, 2008 10:37:32 am PDT #9967 of 10003

"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm not sure if "middle class" is a useful term.

As one social scientist noted, 85% of Americans consider themselves "middle class" but it means very different things to them. From well paid union labor to middle management to small business owners etc.

Sophia Brooks - Jul 28, 2008 10:38:30 am PDT #9968 of 10003

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A NANNY FOR A COLLEGE FRESHMAN.

That was sort of my reaction, too. Also, if she wants someone young and pretty, which she seems to, wouldn't they be very close in age.

Trudy Booth - Jul 28, 2008 10:38:41 am PDT #9969 of 10003

Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm not sure if "middle class" is a useful term.

As one social scientist noted, 85% of Americans consider themselves "middle class" but it means very different things to them. From well paid union labor to middle management to small business owners etc.

I think that's due to the "American's don't HAVE social class" notion -- we almost all want to consider ourselves middle class.

It's only going to be useful if you give it an actual definition.

Jesse - Jul 28, 2008 10:39:10 am PDT #9970 of 10003

Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

A NANNY FOR A COLLEGE FRESHMAN.

I'm sorry, I couldn't get past that part.

Dude. I know. And then there's the part where she says it's a full-time job, but the person really only reliably gets one day off a month.

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