Just let out of jury service. I am not enpanneled . this was a misdemeanor case of indecent exposure. We were told repeatedly -- nakedness is not a crime, so we were going to have to determine if the accused had sexual intent. Intent matters to the law. Running over someone you didn't see and running over someone on purpose are two different actions.
Mmm. Wife soup. I must've done good.
Wash ,'War Stories'
Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
beth b - Jul 16, 2008 2:18:07 pm PDT #8224 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!
javachik - Jul 16, 2008 2:19:35 pm PDT #8225 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.
Does running over someone because they were Chinese make it worse than running over them for no reason in particular?
Trudy Booth - Jul 16, 2008 2:29:11 pm PDT #8226 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
It does if you're teaching other Chinese people a lesson.
Tamara - Jul 16, 2008 2:32:10 pm PDT #8227 of 10003
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Is it wrong to get upset with someone for not realizing if you add $20 of expense to something and then make 100,000 of those somethings, that it is going to cost an extra $2 million dollars? And maybe just maybe they should be figuring out if it is actually going to generate that much more revenue?
Am I crazy?
megan walker - Jul 16, 2008 2:33:32 pm PDT #8228 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Are they Chinese?
Jessica - Jul 16, 2008 2:34:59 pm PDT #8229 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Yes, if your intent is to kill someone and by doing so create an atmosphere of terror within the Chinese community. A hate crime is twofold - the assault on the specific victim and the threat to the community s/he represents to the assaulter.
tommyrot - Jul 16, 2008 2:36:47 pm PDT #8230 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Are they Chinese?
Heh.
javachik - Jul 16, 2008 2:40:18 pm PDT #8231 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.
the assault on the specific victim and the threat to the community s/he represents to the assaulter.
I am willing to be educated about the notion of a hate crime, but it's still very fuzzy to me. It's possible that the (hypothetical) Chinese community could feel a specific threat where none was intended.
megan walker - Jul 16, 2008 2:41:05 pm PDT #8232 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
Sorry I couldn't resist.
But I don't want anyone to think I'm making light of violent crime. I really think all acts of violence are horrific and should be punished to the full extent of the law.
Trudy Booth - Jul 16, 2008 2:42:49 pm PDT #8233 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Lynchings are a classic example. If you drag a black man through the streets because he allegedly did something you're making it very clear to other black men that things like trials and justice don't apply to them.