I don't know that I'd say lesser offense. Someone's still dead either way. But the second one has more victims.
Dreg: Glory, Your Most Fresh-And-Cleanness. It's only a matter of time-- Glory: Ugh, everything always takes time! What about my time? Does anyone appreciate I'm on a schedule here?! Tick tock, Dreg! Tick freakin' tock!
'Sleeper'
Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Daisy Jane - Jul 16, 2008 12:15:32 pm PDT #8184 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Ginger - Jul 16, 2008 12:16:51 pm PDT #8185 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
was it a catholic church?
Presbyterian. I'm not even sure there was a Catholic church. In Googling to try to find out, I discovered there was one by the '80s, because it had the distinction of having a pedophile priest.
Trudy Booth - Jul 16, 2008 12:19:14 pm PDT #8186 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Well, I guess it is now. Generally, I think that juries should judge the crime and not the motivations behind the crime.
I don't think there is anything "now" about it though. Juries have been taking premeditation and heat of the moment, etc, into account for a long time.
Like I said, I go back and forth on hate crime legislation, but they were just an expansion of what we were already doing with sentences, not some bold new thing.
Vortex - Jul 16, 2008 12:25:38 pm PDT #8187 of 10003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
For those who wondered, it was a spokeswoman for the church who first called it a hate crime.
“We don’t know 100 percent what Mr. Cook's motivation was,” Susan Fani, a spokeswoman with the local Catholic diocese, told myfoxorlando.com. “However, if anything were to qualify as a hate crime, to us this seems like this might be it.”
Daisy Jane - Jul 16, 2008 12:28:22 pm PDT #8188 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Because what? Suddenly all the Catholic Churches would start fearing for their communion wafers? It was an implicit threat against the body of Christ?
Ginger - Jul 16, 2008 12:28:40 pm PDT #8189 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
It seems more like a hate peccadillo to me.
Daisy Jane - Jul 16, 2008 12:30:45 pm PDT #8190 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
I think hate is probably even the wrong word. Mocking hassle?
Rick - Jul 16, 2008 12:31:12 pm PDT #8191 of 10003
“However, if anything were to qualify as a hate crime, to us this seems like this might be it.”
See, I would have put the inquisition, the forced conversion of pagans, worldwide condemnation of homosexuals, and the failure to ordain women ahead of this. But that's just me.
megan walker - Jul 16, 2008 12:32:19 pm PDT #8192 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist
First Christmas, now communion wafers.
Daisy Jane - Jul 16, 2008 12:33:06 pm PDT #8193 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
Hee!