Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jun 29, 2008 10:08:33 am PDT #5557 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ah, but the thing I learned watching those shows is that the selling price goes up by more than the renovation costs when they re-do kitchens, so it's good not to get distracted by new appliances!


Theodosia - Jun 29, 2008 10:19:39 am PDT #5558 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I know too many instances where the sellers did all kinds of expensive construction projects to modernize the house, only to have the buyer tear out everything!


Vortex - Jun 29, 2008 10:30:38 am PDT #5559 of 10003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I know too many instances where the sellers did all kinds of expensive construction projects to modernize the house, only to have the buyer tear out everything!

exactly. I would have had a hard time buying the place, knowing that I was going to rip out brand new appliances.


beth b - Jun 29, 2008 10:33:06 am PDT #5560 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

most of the renovation cost on these shows are materials and not labor.

I have to admit - an updated kitchen would make a huge difference in this house, but it is one of the reasons we got the house for less than asking ( during peak market years). And while there are some major $$ renovations --- improving the cabinets, replacing the counters and appliances could be done for a fairly inexpensive price.


Trudy Booth - Jun 29, 2008 10:35:14 am PDT #5561 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

someone could probably make money fabricating models of appliances. then you could make the kitchen look fantastic without buyer and seller spending and ripping new appliances


beth b - Jun 29, 2008 10:54:33 am PDT #5562 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Now I am shopping at overstock.com. It would be much more productive if I could go outside and do the yard work I want to do. But the air is getting better and tomorrow I should be able to work outside tomorrow.


Sue - Jun 29, 2008 11:05:54 am PDT #5563 of 10003
hip deep in pie

Thanks guys. I am having trouble making the call about putting him down. I know he's in some pain, but it's being managed. But I don't want to prolong his life just because I am sad to lose him.


megan walker - Jun 29, 2008 11:16:07 am PDT #5564 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Watching one of those sell my house shows and I just realized I was not a typical buyer. I actually wanted the less neutral house with the out of date interior, partly because it was easier for me to see the potential. My eyes glaze over when things are too neutral.

I'm always appalled at the choices they make based on "what will sell". But I suppose that's good to not be swayed by those type of tactics, as Jesse said.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 29, 2008 11:17:30 am PDT #5565 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

oh, Sue. That is so hard-- to make a decision for someone you love when they can't tell you with words how much pain they are in. I say listen to him-- you will be able to tell when it it time.


§ ita § - Jun 29, 2008 11:18:34 am PDT #5566 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mad as in anger. Decided on none. Am currently having a round table discussion on the evils of the internet. Guy who was trashing the internet turns out to have met his GF online. Can't work out if he's bitter, or what.