Gimme some milk.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


beth b - Jun 27, 2008 1:21:34 pm PDT #5387 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

If I could bundle up the fog and pass it your way, I would. We had smoky haze yesterday, but this is definitely foggy-fog-fog blowing in from the ocean, with November levels of cold and that unpleasant damp that goes right to your bones.

Well,I just looked(I'm obsessed).and your air quality isn't much better than ours. One or two days in the moderate zone usually is dealable.But this has been toooooo long. OTOH, I am grateful that I no longer work in livermore. They have had levels that are bad for people with good lungs. The worst part about this -- I don't sleep when I don't breath.

But, in good news for the day... the 'abnormalities' in Percy's xrays --- strictly due to the fact that he was under anesthesia . And the kidneys looked reasonably good. Because his sugars dropped so drastically just from diet change we are giving him two more weeks on the new food ,then testing his sugar again. I am guessing he will need insulin, but I think we will get a better idea of what he needs.


Sue - Jun 27, 2008 1:24:25 pm PDT #5388 of 10003
hip deep in pie

I'm so sorry to hear the news about your aunt, Tamara. Much ma to your family.

My fog story, I went to the drive in with my friend and her parents when I was about 7 or 8. It was a double bill of You Light Up My Life and Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The fog was so thick we couldn't see the screen during the second show and left.

I've also been in some Newfoundland fog that was unbelievable.


Nutty - Jun 27, 2008 1:24:51 pm PDT #5389 of 10003
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

all the West Coast teams will make it to the playoffs and there won't be a single team east of the Mississippi in the post-season

Ummm... That's not actually possible. The whole point of divisions by region within the league is that at least two teams in the playoffs have to be from east of the Mississippi. Which, presumably, is why you didn't mention the LA/Anaheim/wherever Angels, because they are the AL team likely to take the playoff spot in the West.

Also, you might consider: not only are the east coast games done earlier, making for more consistently easy-to-report games, the eastern time zone counts for half the US population. I have fantasized many times about how to redistribute the teams, because the leagues and regions having different team-counts bothers me (because I am crazy), and I really can't do it properly. Even giving Vegas an ML team (it currently has a AAA franchise), there just aren't enough distinct big cities to make it work on the west coast. As it is, Texas has to count as west (sometimes but not always) to make it work at all.

(Assuming that no one TV market -- LA, Bay Area -- would sustain more than two teams, one in each league, or else the owners would scream bloody murder, and assuming that Portland, Oregon just isn't big enough to warrant a team of its own.)


Theodosia - Jun 27, 2008 1:35:12 pm PDT #5390 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Las Vegas should be big enough by now to support a major league franchise, surely?


Sue - Jun 27, 2008 1:40:36 pm PDT #5391 of 10003
hip deep in pie

Las Vegas should be big enough by now to support a major league franchise, surely?

From what I understand from hockey and basketball, there's huge interest in the city for major league teams, but there's a big fear in the leagues about gambling and a hometown franchise and the chance of undue influence on games.


JZ - Jun 27, 2008 1:46:01 pm PDT #5392 of 10003
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I didn't mention the Angels because they do seem to be the one East Coast team ESPN will talk about.

It's still tremendously irritating...granted, I've only been seriously following baseball maybe a couple months longer than you, but in the time I've been watching it seems that they'll talk about the Angels (a little, a very little, but more than any other West Coast team) year in and year out no matter how well or poorly they're doing or how likely they are to make the playoffs; the A's still didn't rate more than grudging passing mention even a couple of years back when they made it into the post-season and swept their first round. When Barry Bonds was closing in on the home run record the Giants got some airtime, but mostly around the edges of the Barry talk. And all the other teams combined? A web gem nominee here, a nod to Ichiro's genius there, and that's about it.

not only are the east coast games done earlier, making for more consistently easy-to-report games, the eastern time zone counts for half the US population.

Bah. There's still a whole other half. And even the coverage of that one half has been tilting more and more over the past year to Red Sox/Yankees/Mets coverage. Sometimes those three teams take up fully half a BT broadcast, with every other team in the country dividing up the remaining bits of time between them (unless even that is bitten into by some idiotic special report about Those Dangerous Shattering Bats! or Are Both Chicago Managers Short-Tempered Dipshits, Or Only One? or whatnot).

Ummm... That's not actually possible.

Well, okay, I'll settle for everyone east of the Mississippi just going down in flames sometime in the post-season so we end up with a repeat of 1989 (minus the earthquake).


Susan W. - Jun 27, 2008 1:47:06 pm PDT #5393 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan, one of the many current objects of scorn and hatred chez Zmayhem is ESPN's "Baseball Tonight" and its incessant East Coast MLB ass-kissing.

I KNOW!! I swear the most mediocre Yankees or Red Sox team gets more attention from them than the M's did in 2001 when we won 116!

I know, I know, population densities, etc. But still.


§ ita § - Jun 27, 2008 1:59:10 pm PDT #5394 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Work rush is making my shoulders incredibly tense. I wish our deadline would go away, but...yeah, no. It's only a matter of how much cleanup we'll have to do on the other side.

This post is taking me over half an hour, what with the interruption of nasty work things I have to do, with a phone ringing off the hook (my personal best of the afternoon is two lines going on the land line, and one on the blackberry and an incoming email ticker like a disco strobe light.

But if I only do that I'll stroke out.


erikaj - Jun 27, 2008 2:06:26 pm PDT #5395 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

Just not Dan Patrick. Keith would be sad if his bff's head burst. Weekend: Dem event Saturday. Sunday:videos grey & foggy sounds nice to me, JZ. But I'm held hostage by The Orb.


Susan W. - Jun 27, 2008 2:06:42 pm PDT #5396 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I just spent half an hour on the phone with an author friend from one of my writing email loops, asking her advice on an area where she clearly has more expertise than I do. At the end she asked me where I was located. I said Seattle, and she said she would've sworn I had a Southern accent. I told her I grew up in Alabama, but I'm feeling suddenly self-conscious about my speech. It's been awhile since anyone has said I sounded Southern unless I was deliberately putting it on. (Not that sounding Southern is a bad thing, you understand. I'm just suddenly listening to myself talk, you know?)