I'm 17. Looking at linoleum makes me want to have sex.

Xander ,'First Date'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Jun 02, 2008 12:37:50 pm PDT #499 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Roto Rooter gave me another $5 off this time. Which is nice. He pulled a sock and two toothbrushes out of the kids' toilet.


Maria - Jun 02, 2008 12:45:01 pm PDT #500 of 10003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

He pulled a sock and two toothbrushes out of the kids' toilet.

Cash, I think your kids are bent on world domination one toilet at a time.

I admire you so damned much.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 02, 2008 12:47:29 pm PDT #501 of 10003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yes, I think I'd have long since resorted to yelling "That's it! I'm putting a lock on the toilet and you're wearing diapers until you can drive!"


Theodosia - Jun 02, 2008 12:54:39 pm PDT #502 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I heard the news about Bo Diddley -- he was younger than my Mom is! That's just wrong, because he should have got to go on much longer than he did. SIGH


Burrell - Jun 02, 2008 12:58:10 pm PDT #503 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

What other sorts of reasons do you suggest?

behavioral, chemical loop that reinforces itself

I've met some people who didn't articulate their compulsive behavior in terms of some neurosis or anxiety that needed to be staved off, it was just stated as fact. And sometimes in kids I see compulsive repetition which seems to me more connected to pattern recognition than anything else.


Laura - Jun 02, 2008 1:22:29 pm PDT #504 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

Cash, I think your kids are bent on world domination one toilet at a time.

My son flushed a plastic cup that he found in the doctor's office bathroom. Took out the toilet until the plumber could come fix it. Wrecking them at home wasn't quite enough fun. It was a while before he was allowed to go to the bathroom by himself again.


hippocampus - Jun 02, 2008 1:28:13 pm PDT #505 of 10003
not your mom's socks.

Ha! F2F in PA.

::raises head from pile of paper to say...::

WHEN??!!!

Cashmere - buy the auger. Guaranteed that they'll stop flushing things.


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2008 1:34:31 pm PDT #506 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've met some people who didn't articulate their compulsive behavior in terms of some neurosis or anxiety that needed to be staved off, it was just stated as fact

I guess what I don't get here is when they know they're done. Alleviation of a neurosis seems a simple enough mechanism. In the scenarios you describe is it just a simple knowledge that tapping that twenty times makes things right again? What does "not right" consist of, then?


Ginger - Jun 02, 2008 1:40:31 pm PDT #507 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Maria, clearly your father and my grandmother must never meet. It would be like a black hole of overworrying.

Add my mother, an Olympic class worrier, and we could suck up the whole galaxy. My mother worries when anything happens in the whole state, regardless of how far away it is. She called me at 5:30 a.m. after the Olympic Park bombing, after worrying all night. That wasn't completely unfounded; I was volunteering nearby and had walked through the park about a half hour before the bomb. It just didn't occur to me to call my mother at 1 a.m. and say, "Still not dead."


Burrell - Jun 02, 2008 1:55:15 pm PDT #508 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

In the scenarios you describe is it just a simple knowledge that tapping that twenty times makes things right again? What does "not right" consist of, then?

I think the difference is you seem to assume that all compulsive behavior is initiated by the perception of something being "not right" and I think there are instances where it is initiated simply by the perception of the pattern.

Okay, off to pick up the kids.