This money, it is too much. You should have some small refund.

Niska ,'War Stories'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Jun 02, 2008 1:55:15 pm PDT #508 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

In the scenarios you describe is it just a simple knowledge that tapping that twenty times makes things right again? What does "not right" consist of, then?

I think the difference is you seem to assume that all compulsive behavior is initiated by the perception of something being "not right" and I think there are instances where it is initiated simply by the perception of the pattern.

Okay, off to pick up the kids.


Rick - Jun 02, 2008 2:01:27 pm PDT #509 of 10003

Back when Psychoanalysis was influential in Psychology and Psychiatry, Neurosis was the general concept and Compulsion was one of many symptoms of Neurosis. Lots of time was spent figuring out whether the patient was neurotic and which neurotic processes were responsible for the symptoms. It was great fun, with Ink Blot tests and sitting around a table discussiong the patient and feeling smart and insightful.

At this point, though, Psychoanalysis and its concepts are rejected by nearly all experts in Psychology and Psychiatry, so Neurosis has no official meaning--you won't find it in any official diagnosis, for instance.

My friends in English departments say that Psychoanalysis is still useful in literary criticism. It makes sense that a product of Freud's imagination might be useful in explaining the products of other people's imaginations. But it's never been shown to be of any specific value in helping people with their problems. It's mostly used as an example of how big a fool you can make of yourself if you accept theories without putting them to a scientific test. Kind of a sad end given the high hopes for Psychoanalysis at the start.


Jessica - Jun 02, 2008 2:01:59 pm PDT #510 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

For Tep - breakfast pizza.


Jesse - Jun 02, 2008 2:02:03 pm PDT #511 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So, I heard a rumor that McDonald's had Iron Man toys, so I went off to get a Happy Meal...and got a Speed Racer toy. Of course, I then realized that of course they wouldn't have IM at McD's, that's Burger King. Der! Oh well, I guess I'll have to go to BK next.


Lee - Jun 02, 2008 2:03:35 pm PDT #512 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

For Tep - breakfast pizza.

That looks good. No Bacon!


Jessica - Jun 02, 2008 2:04:40 pm PDT #513 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Adorableness - Dylan is sitting at my feet right now pretending to drink out of a bottle of eye wash (with the cap on tight). After each "sip" he's giving an exaggerated refreshed-sounding "Aaaah!" Too cute.


meara - Jun 02, 2008 2:05:07 pm PDT #514 of 10003

Agh!

Friday I had tickets to a movie, so I left the house at 4:30. The UPS lady came at 5:45. Ah well. It was not meant to be.

Today, I had to mail my rent check. But I had morning meetings. So I leave the house and run down to the post office, and was back home by 3:30. I hoped she would come late, anyway. But no...the UPS lady had come at 3:15. Aaaaaagh!

Tomorrow, UPS lady. Tomorrow I shall await you, you and your stealthy ways...


§ ita § - Jun 02, 2008 2:07:49 pm PDT #515 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the difference is you seem to assume that all compulsive behavior is initiated by the perception of something being "not right" and I think there are instances where it is initiated simply by the perception of the pattern.

Why complete the pattern, is my question? In the scenarios to which I've been exposed, I've seen people's deepening distress at not being able to finish up, so, yeah, they looked like something was not right to them.

Lots of time was spent figuring out whether the patient was neurotic

Oh, we're all neurotic. That's what too much free time'll do to ya.


Sean K - Jun 02, 2008 2:09:01 pm PDT #516 of 10003
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

For Tep - breakfast pizza.

*I* was the one who wanted breakfast pizza!


Jessica - Jun 02, 2008 2:14:13 pm PDT #517 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

*I* was the one who wanted breakfast pizza!

Your names both start with S! How am I supposed to tell the difference, huh???

Anyway, it's too late now. You'll have to ask Tep if she's willing to share.