Giles! I accidentally killed Spike. That's okay, right?

Buffy ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Jun 26, 2008 6:32:51 am PDT #4969 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is it all of Europe that uses the "dd/mm/yyyy" date format instead of the "mm/dd/yyyy" format we use in the US?


Nutty - Jun 26, 2008 6:32:55 am PDT #4970 of 10003
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

"All but one person I met who claimed Indian blood claimed it on their grandmother's side. I once did a projection backward and discovered that evidently most tribes were entirely female for the first three hundred years of white occupation. No one, it seemed, wanted to claim a male Indian as a forebear."

Actually, there's also a factual basis for this. Mixed-race Indian men had very strong incentives to marry "down" the racial hierarchy -- that is, to marry a darker-complected mixed-race woman, or a black or Indian woman. Whereas mixed-race women could be "saved" or "civilized" by marriage up the hierarchy. This would explain why all the "tragic mulatto" stories of decades past are about women aspiring upwards, never about men. It wasn't totally universal, but there are strong gender-hierarchy implications in race-mixing in the US, especially in the 19th century. (Hint: a lot of the same stereotypes applied to Indian men in the 18th-19th C. are the ones applied to black men in the late 19th, early 20th C., i.e. "they will rape your lily-white daughters and create terrible 'confused' children.")

And actually, when you think about it, Indian Royalty Ancestress Syndrome works the same way that Dairymaid Ancestress Syndrome works in Anglo folk tales: it's okay for a king to marry a dairymaid, and for princes to have a female relative of poor origins; but no mythical princess ever married a farmer and gave birth to future kings. All her children were future farmers; she took on the status-markers of her husband, and never the other way around.

I was doing data entry 2-3 weeks ago on a survey, and discovered a respondent had entered, in the race demographics, that his mother's great-grandmother was "a Cherokee princess," and thereby checked for both himself and his mother "American Indian" -- not white, not mixed-race. Whether or not his ancestry was actually true -- he did come from a region with a history of Cherokee population -- it seemed to me like a weird reappropriation of the one-drop rule, where a person gets to claim all the privileges of whiteness, while also claiming the drama, excitingness, and "authenticity" of an oppressed minority.

Which, bleah.


amych - Jun 26, 2008 6:33:41 am PDT #4971 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Is it all of Europe that uses the "dd/mm/yyyy" date format instead of the "mm/dd/yyyy" format we use in the US?

It's all of the world, pretty much.


tommyrot - Jun 26, 2008 6:36:08 am PDT #4972 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It's all of the world, pretty much.

Is there a name for that date format?


Shir - Jun 26, 2008 6:38:14 am PDT #4973 of 10003
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Is there a name for that date format?

The Usual Date Format?

I just had an enlightenment: I don't wanna clean the living room.


shrift - Jun 26, 2008 6:45:22 am PDT #4974 of 10003
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I'm impatiently waiting for it to be burrito o'clock.


Jesse - Jun 26, 2008 6:46:44 am PDT #4975 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I can't figure out what I want for lunch. It's so freezing in my office, I'm thinking about soup.


Tom Scola - Jun 26, 2008 6:47:42 am PDT #4976 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Looking at all the locales that are defined on my Mac, only the US and South Africa use MM/DD/YYYY. All other English speaking countries (along with Brazil, Israel, and Spain) use DD/MM/YYYY.

The rest of Western Europe uses DD.MM.YYYY, except for Norway, which uses DD-MM-YYYY. Some Eastern European and Asian countries use YYYY/MM/DD.


tommyrot - Jun 26, 2008 6:52:37 am PDT #4977 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Huh. Apparently the problem with the world oil market is there's too much oil on the market. At least that's what Libya says. They might cut their oil production because of this.

Or maybe they just can't produce as much oil as they used to....

Libya May Cut Oil Output as Market Is Oversupplied, Ghanem Says


Tom Scola - Jun 26, 2008 6:57:33 am PDT #4978 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Sorry, it's The Netherlands that uses DD-MM-YYYY, not Norway.