River: You're not right, Early. You're not righteous. You've got issues. Early: No. Oh, yes, I could have that. You might have me figured out, then. Good job. I'm not 100%.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Tom Scola - Jun 26, 2008 6:57:33 am PDT #4978 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Sorry, it's The Netherlands that uses DD-MM-YYYY, not Norway.


Glamcookie - Jun 26, 2008 6:58:58 am PDT #4979 of 10003
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

So much ~ma to Pico and Sue.


tommyrot - Jun 26, 2008 7:00:15 am PDT #4980 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Sorry, it's The Netherlands that uses DD-MM-YYYY, not Norway.

Do you know what India uses?


Scrappy - Jun 26, 2008 7:00:25 am PDT #4981 of 10003
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Much ma to Pico.

Shir--I hope the evening is as wonderful as the dress!


Tom Scola - Jun 26, 2008 7:02:46 am PDT #4982 of 10003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Sorry, MacOS doesn't have an Indian locale defined.


amych - Jun 26, 2008 7:04:57 am PDT #4983 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

India uses dd-mm-yyyy (I suspect that the punctuation varies a good bit for any of these locales, but the date is definitely day first).

I think you're outta luck when it comes to translating your dates, tommyrot. It's just us and the South Africans holding out.


§ ita § - Jun 26, 2008 7:06:03 am PDT #4984 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, Sue, I'm so sorry.

I think the native American accent of which you speak (and indigenous Canadian too) is more likely to be a cadence.

True. I find it hard to distinguish between a cadence and an accent--once I've pinned it, it's pinned.

Today is crinoline day. That's the only way I'm going to get through it's length, despite having discovered I don't have the right drivers in Vista for my new scanner so I can only adjust like three settings, and having burnt my hand on the iron, and already being late which means I should be sitting here typing but I'm hoping Photoshop hasn't actually hung and I can finish what I partially installed the scanner for in the first place. Why do I suspect my phone has a part to play in resolving this tech issue? The world is too complex.


P.M. Marc - Jun 26, 2008 7:20:22 am PDT #4985 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Actually, there's also a factual basis for this. Mixed-race Indian men had very strong incentives to marry "down" the racial hierarchy -- that is, to marry a darker-complected mixed-race woman, or a black or Indian woman. Whereas mixed-race women could be "saved" or "civilized" by marriage up the hierarchy. This would explain why all the "tragic mulatto" stories of decades past are about women aspiring upwards, never about men. It wasn't totally universal, but there are strong gender-hierarchy implications in race-mixing in the US, especially in the 19th century. (Hint: a lot of the same stereotypes applied to Indian men in the 18th-19th C. are the ones applied to black men in the late 19th, early 20th C., i.e. "they will rape your lily-white daughters and create terrible 'confused' children.")

And Nutty brings up the point I was going to bring up. Additionally, you had frequent points in the colonization of North America where there were more white men in a given area than white women, but not so much the reverse.

(Disclaimer: I'm a white girl, but it seems that not all my ancestors were. Those that weren't were, in fact, female. No princesses, however. Everyone was dirt poor and rural.)


Ginger - Jun 26, 2008 7:29:48 am PDT #4986 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

We have no Indian princess stories. They'd be hard to sell on my mother's side, which consists of Very Pale People. We do have a French princess who ran away with a coachman story. Since there's pretty good evidence that the only French part of the equation was Huguenot, it seems highly unlikely.


Jesse - Jun 26, 2008 7:30:22 am PDT #4987 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

This post from Go Fug Yourself (a Well Played post) reminds me to comment on how much I love it that Queen Latifah got a Jenny Craig contract to lose 10 lbs. I actually think it was a brilliant move on the company's part: "See, you can come here even if you don't want to transform yourself into a stick figure!" [link]