When we landed here you said you needed a few days to get space worthy again and is there somethin' wrong with your bunk?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jun 24, 2008 1:03:45 pm PDT #4696 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Overall, I'd take what Critichley says with a grain of salt, though I don't think he's a bad philosopher.

Thanks, bob bob! And congratulations on the job/move/crazylifechanges.

Those do seem to be sweeping generalizations, and more obfuscating than illuminating.

Of course, now I want to know: Who is a bad philosopher?


Jesse - Jun 24, 2008 1:08:07 pm PDT #4697 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm not so hot at philosophizing.


meara - Jun 24, 2008 1:09:13 pm PDT #4698 of 10003

And I love that meara is pimping the Pacific Northwest ... from Indianapolis (it IS Indianapolis, isn't it? or are you still in Texas?)

Yep, Indy. But I can still pimp my new city! It's not like I'm STAYING in Indy. Or CHOOSING to be here!! It's not like THIS is the city where I walk around and turn a corner every few feet and go "DAMN, it's pretty here!!!"


Cashmere - Jun 24, 2008 1:15:15 pm PDT #4699 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Congrats Dana and DH and bon bon and bob bob! Woot for big life changiness and jobs, etc.

DH and I are going out tonight--we've been married for 14 years today. I still can't quite get over that amount of time. Our marriage is old enough to be a freshman in high school.


DavidS - Jun 24, 2008 1:16:41 pm PDT #4700 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I have to say bob bob, that after reading Leiter's blog he comes off as extremely axe-grindy. That was some serious academic hair-pulling and slapfighting there. (Leiter's attempt to link Derrida and Reaganism seemed pretty specious, though.)


DavidS - Jun 24, 2008 1:17:44 pm PDT #4701 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Our marriage is old enough to be a freshman in high school.

Does that mean your marriage is pimply, prone to B.O. and subject to wild mood swings?


Cashmere - Jun 24, 2008 1:21:50 pm PDT #4702 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Clear skin and smells like roses.

Two out of three ain't bad.


Bob Bob - Jun 24, 2008 1:22:01 pm PDT #4703 of 10003

Who Is a bad philosopher? Well, it depends on the standard you're using. I was taking myself to be an average philosopher; compared to me, Critchley is certainly not a bad philosopher. On the other hand, if you're talking about people like Kant and Descartes, well, they're of course world-shatteringly great, and it's really hard to compare modern-day people to them. Critchley would be a bad philosopher compared to them because his ideas won't stand the test of time, and insofar as they do, it will only be because they're perfectly ordinary or worse than ordinary examples of philosophy done in this day and age. Still, if by average philosopher you mean someone who gets the respect of his peers as being expert at least in his or her area of specialization, then Critchley would probably count as an average philosopher. A bad philosopher would be probably be someone like Peter Kreeft (Boston College) or Bruce Wilshire (Rutgers)--people who seem to make fallacious arguments time and again, and who don't really add anything for their areas of specialization. Of course, in Kreeft's case, he's almost entirely a popularizer, so the incompleteness of his arguments is probably a function of that. I've also heard Akeel Bilgrami (Columbia) is a bad philosopher, in that he's a very mean person, he's very political, and his contributions are derided as muddled by people who are expert in his field. For all that, though, I'm sure he's very smart.


Rick - Jun 24, 2008 1:23:46 pm PDT #4704 of 10003

fact, there's a whole burgeoning field of philosophy, "experimental philosophy", which is all about uniting the techniques of psychology with philosophy.

I've been curious about this field of "experimental philosophy" because it sounds a lot like social or cognitive psychology to me, though more careful in its premises.

It seems to recreate the original split between philosophy and psychology 100-150 years ago, when restless empiricists increasingly found themselves at odds with their colleagues in philosophy departments. Most of the original psychology departments were founded by exiled philosophy professors. It will be insteresting to see where the experimenal philosophers end up.


amych - Jun 24, 2008 1:26:51 pm PDT #4705 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Congrats, Cash and Mr!!