Gunn: You saying popping mama threw you a beating? Lorne: Kid Vicious did the heavy lifting. Cordy just mwah-ha-ha'd at us.

'Underneath'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


P.M. Marc - Jun 24, 2008 12:43:45 pm PDT #4692 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

WOO!

Dana, that RULES!

If you want to email me, I am perfectly willing to bug my friend from there for more details (his parents still live there, as do his in-laws), so I can get you started with Where Things That Rule Live. Other than DANA, who will of course live in the AWESOME HOUSE that she will NO DOUBT GET, PEOPLE.

Ahem.

Pardon my caps.


Toddson - Jun 24, 2008 12:47:52 pm PDT #4693 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Congratulations bon bon and bob bob! Congratulations Dana and DH!

And I love that meara is pimping the Pacific Northwest ... from Indianapolis (it IS Indianapolis, isn't it? or are you still in Texas?)


Bob Bob - Jun 24, 2008 12:48:14 pm PDT #4694 of 10003

bon bon! Ask Bob Bob's opinon on Simon Critchley.

I don't know much about Critchley, as he's in the "Continental" tradition (people like Nietzsche, Husserl, Heidegger, Foucault, and Derrida) and I'm in the "analytic" one (people like Frege, Bertrand Russell, Popper, Quine, and Kripke). So take everything I'm about to say with a grain of salt.

I think he's best at popularizing, rather than producing independent research. He apparently likes to make grand pronouncements about both Continental and analytic philosophy, saying of the former:

The goal of philosophy in the continental tradition is emancipation, whether individual or societal[.]

The problem with this statement is that only some continental philosophy is about this. Husserl, for example, does not concern himself with liberation. I'm guessing that Heidegger doesn't as well. (And this two are two of the four most important continental philosophers, so that's a rather big gap.)

He says of analytic philosophy:

What I dislike most about [analytic] philosophers is the idea that they think because they are smart as philosophers they have nothing to learn from anybody else. You find this repeatedly. I'd argue that they've got lots to learn, not just from cognitive scientists, but from lawyers, historians, anthropologists and sundry others.

The problem with this is that analytic philosophy, especially over the last thirty years, has done lots of interdisciplinary work. In fact, there's a whole burgeoning field of philosophy, "experimental philosophy", which is all about uniting the techniques of psychology with philosophy.

(I get Critchley's quotes from this: [link]

Overall, I'd take what Critichley says with a grain of salt, though I don't think he's a bad philosopher.


Pix - Jun 24, 2008 12:57:00 pm PDT #4695 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

I forgot to congratulate Dana and her DH earlier...congrats! Great news!


DavidS - Jun 24, 2008 1:03:45 pm PDT #4696 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Overall, I'd take what Critichley says with a grain of salt, though I don't think he's a bad philosopher.

Thanks, bob bob! And congratulations on the job/move/crazylifechanges.

Those do seem to be sweeping generalizations, and more obfuscating than illuminating.

Of course, now I want to know: Who is a bad philosopher?


Jesse - Jun 24, 2008 1:08:07 pm PDT #4697 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm not so hot at philosophizing.


meara - Jun 24, 2008 1:09:13 pm PDT #4698 of 10003

And I love that meara is pimping the Pacific Northwest ... from Indianapolis (it IS Indianapolis, isn't it? or are you still in Texas?)

Yep, Indy. But I can still pimp my new city! It's not like I'm STAYING in Indy. Or CHOOSING to be here!! It's not like THIS is the city where I walk around and turn a corner every few feet and go "DAMN, it's pretty here!!!"


Cashmere - Jun 24, 2008 1:15:15 pm PDT #4699 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

Congrats Dana and DH and bon bon and bob bob! Woot for big life changiness and jobs, etc.

DH and I are going out tonight--we've been married for 14 years today. I still can't quite get over that amount of time. Our marriage is old enough to be a freshman in high school.


DavidS - Jun 24, 2008 1:16:41 pm PDT #4700 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I have to say bob bob, that after reading Leiter's blog he comes off as extremely axe-grindy. That was some serious academic hair-pulling and slapfighting there. (Leiter's attempt to link Derrida and Reaganism seemed pretty specious, though.)


DavidS - Jun 24, 2008 1:17:44 pm PDT #4701 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Our marriage is old enough to be a freshman in high school.

Does that mean your marriage is pimply, prone to B.O. and subject to wild mood swings?