I think that it is a basic lack of understanding of what being persecuted is. I have heard people singing the refrain of "our way of life is being attacked from all sides", when what they really mean but cannot seem to grasp is that "people who disagree with us are now vocal enough and/or a large enough minority that we have to acknowledge them or adjust our lives in ways we don't want to.".
That's my girl... That's my good girl.
Kaylee ,'Serenity'
Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
msbelle - Jun 17, 2008 10:24:27 am PDT #3612 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
amych - Jun 17, 2008 10:28:26 am PDT #3613 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
What msbelle said. I hear the "Christians are oppressed" stuff all the time from some of the fundies I know, and it always pretty much comes down to "someone disagreed with me".
Jesse - Jun 17, 2008 10:28:31 am PDT #3614 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Seriously?!? "Every child deserves a mom and a dad"?!?
I mean, I'm glad to have two swell parents, and it's fine that one of them is male and one is female, but for crying out loud.
msbelle - Jun 17, 2008 10:31:37 am PDT #3615 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
grr, the board ate a post
I doubt any public school teacher in the US has told her class that Christians are horrible people, or going to hell, or ignorant fools, BUT the same most certainly has been said about other religions or atheists.
ION - My stand on the "Every child deserves a mom and a dad" thing probably does not need to be stated. I Hate Some People!
sumi - Jun 17, 2008 10:38:32 am PDT #3616 of 10003
Art Crawl!!!
Burrell - Jun 17, 2008 10:50:46 am PDT #3617 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Oh dear, didn't mean to start a coffee panic here on the board. Sorry, my bad.
Can anyone explain this to me?
I think msbelle is pretty on target WRT the not recognizing what persecution means. It's probably all the little accommodations made for people who aren't Christian in this country, like singing "Dredel dredel dredel" in the school Christmasholiday pageant.
What's fascinating to me about that Last Father's Day ad is that it clearly articulates a fear that if marriage changes men would become useless and unnecessary. I mean seriously, what do they think? That given their druthers all women would rather marry another woman?
Toddson - Jun 17, 2008 10:52:39 am PDT #3618 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
It (the persecution thing) seems to be the same old thing, that when you're used to being in a privileged position, anything that takes away a part of that privilege, or even shares it, is seen as an injury. bah! silly people!
amych - Jun 17, 2008 10:54:08 am PDT #3619 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Oh, Todd. Next you're going to be saying that rich white men have it hard.
tiggy - Jun 17, 2008 10:54:29 am PDT #3620 of 10003
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
the "Robplane" is a thing of beauty, Daisy Jane. i love that you guys drew a face on it and left him notes. hilarious!!
msbelle - Jun 17, 2008 10:55:47 am PDT #3621 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
well that and the timing with Father's Day. Wife is coming off the license too, and mother/father SHOULD come off birth certificates. parent parent parent.
hi there soapbox, how I've missed you.