Wesley: And how does your kind define love? Demon: Same as all bodies. Same as everywheres. Love is sacrifice.

'The Girl in Question'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Jun 13, 2008 11:42:10 am PDT #3071 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.

Happy Birthday, Dylan!


Kat - Jun 13, 2008 11:43:55 am PDT #3072 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Brenda, I had never heard it before. It came up in a convo at a school site (not the one I'm at) about the fact that the pregnancy rate at the school had gone from 2 last year (and 3 I think the year before) to 8 or 9 this year. They were discussing the clinic they've had on campus etc. etc.


Kat - Jun 13, 2008 11:45:36 am PDT #3073 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

And I was thinking about how it compares to parachute kids (kids who are dumped in a multimillion dollar house in a good neighborhood with a maid and lots of money whose parents go back to a home country to live while the kid attends high school here).


msbelle - Jun 13, 2008 11:47:33 am PDT #3074 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

how do I get that gig?


Kat - Jun 13, 2008 11:48:55 am PDT #3075 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

..parachute kids...

which I was thinking about because I had read an article about Korean mothers and children moving to live in English speaking countries so their kids could attend english speaking schools (while dad stays in Korea).

I had to do a parent night at a Korean after school Kumon-math-esque place last night and it got me thinking about all of this.


brenda m - Jun 13, 2008 11:52:22 am PDT #3076 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Brenda, I had never heard it before.

You probably don't waste nearly as much time in blogland as I do, and are therefore less versed in wingnuttia.

It came up in a convo at a school site (not the one I'm at) about the fact that the pregnancy rate at the school had gone from 2 last year (and 3 I think the year before) to 8 or 9 this year. They were discussing the clinic they've had on campus etc. etc.

I would be interested in knowing, actually, if it's a term that has any use among the people involved. My experience though is that it's usually come up when people are making assumptions about other people's lives and so it sets me off a little. [I don't mean to imply that you or they are doing this., and hope I didn't.] But it does seem like the kind of thing that is more assumed than known, if that makes any sense.

Don't even know what to think about the parachute thing. Really?


Kat - Jun 13, 2008 11:54:58 am PDT #3077 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Don't even know what to think about the parachute thing. Really?

Yep. Not a large issue in the district I'm in. But in one of the wealthier school districts south of Pasadena, it's a known problem. It's kind of amazing and sad. A 15 year old often not equipped to live on his or her own, even in a giant beautiful well maintained house.

I don't mean to imply that you or they are doing this., and hope I didn't.] But it does seem like the kind of thing that is more assumed than known, if that makes any sense.

No that makes perfect sense. I hadn't heard the term before and just found it sort of an interesting one and a sick one at the same time.


meara - Jun 13, 2008 12:00:34 pm PDT #3078 of 10003

I'm confused, Kat--why is it inappropriate to tell the girl "You're not fat, you're just pregnant"?


tommyrot - Jun 13, 2008 12:04:08 pm PDT #3079 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

In case anyone's bored, PZ has a creationist that he just can't make sense of. When I try to make sense of it, my brain hurts....

Translation, please

This is the guy's letter:

Evolution explains designer

Evolution versus creation is a false dichotomy. Evolution as a viable mechanism causing the ascent of man also explains the existence of the creator.

If man could evolve to his present status physically, culturally and technologically within the age of this planet (approximately 4.5 billion years), then obviously the technology required to build species entirely of one's own choosing could be developed within the age of the universe.

Considering the amount of time that has elapsed, which is endless, and the quantity of appropriate locations for life to evolve, also endless, a coincidence of impossible magnitude would be required for us to be the first intelligent designers.

The dichotomy is stubbornly maintained by those who fight for freedom from the morality of Christians. It is also stubbornly maintained by those who fight for freedom from the result of the immorality of the atheists, who believe they will have to answer to no one.

Uninterrupted evolution reaches a climax when an intelligent designer evolves. At that point the designer easily outpaces random natural selection because of the deliberate nature of intelligent design. The Christian has more confidence in evolution and technology than atheists have.


Rick - Jun 13, 2008 12:10:21 pm PDT #3080 of 10003

I think he's saying that there is no contradiction between evolution and intelligent design, because evolution must invevitably result in an intelligent designer. So the intelligent designer of us (who people call God) is probably just the result of an evolutionary process that started earlier and elsewhere.