Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.

'Shells'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Jun 11, 2008 8:30:02 pm PDT #2641 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Fox News? Can I go and light fire to Fox News? That's not Salon Letters.


Hil R. - Jun 11, 2008 8:32:10 pm PDT #2642 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

No. Because you just posted the plan online, so you just created a trail. First rule of arson: you don't talk about arson.


Trudy Booth - Jun 11, 2008 8:33:14 pm PDT #2643 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I CAN'T STAND IT! I JUST CAN'T STAND IT!

t /charlie brown


erikaj - Jun 11, 2008 8:57:08 pm PDT #2644 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

Trudy, yeah, because then I can meet Keith Olbermann. That would rock. ETA: You don't suppose he'd believe Too Much Candy is a Southwest custom, do you? In any case, it's Fixed Noise. Burn away! ETA2: Stay away from Salon Letters. Either they're trolls or I get to see my cherished convictions tweaked till the break by people who can't spell "cherished conviction"


Jesse - Jun 12, 2008 2:58:56 am PDT #2645 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

A few minutes ago, the catsitter I hired for July 11th-16th walked into my apartment.

That's hilarious.

I am so fucking tired, and don't feel that good stomach-wise. I was going to stay home, but I have too much stuff to do that I can't access from here. BAH.


Sparky1 - Jun 12, 2008 3:14:39 am PDT #2646 of 10003
Librarian Warlord

This weekend's workshop is "Polite in the Park." Did you see the email?

bonny, I got the email and we should be there! We're hoping for no thunderstorms so we can have dinner at one of the sidewalk cafes, too. Will you join us?

July 11th-16th

Perkins, I have an extra ticket to the West party on Monday if anyone else we know needs free food & booze. I'm just as happy to skip it and be avoid-ish.


Toddson - Jun 12, 2008 3:46:58 am PDT #2647 of 10003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

So PC has a cat wander into his apartment, Perkins has a cat sitter wander into hers ... some kind of convergence?

And from Hil's Salon link:

You know the Republican Party is going through a rough patch when party veterans start comparing the GOP to the undead. That's what Larry Hunter did in a story in The New Republic.


Steph L. - Jun 12, 2008 3:48:35 am PDT #2648 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

You know the Republican Party is going through a rough patch when party veterans start comparing the GOP to the undead. That's what Larry Hunter did in a story in The New Republic.

Didn't The Simpsons do that in a Treehouse of Horror once? ("Oh my God! The dead have risen and are voting Republican!" -- Bart)

"Obama's Baby Mama."

I'm reading the Salon Letters and I just keep screaming "OMG THAT'S JUST COMPLTETLY FUCKING RACIST "

Not counting brain-dead douchehounds like Rush Limbaugh or O'Reilly, I have a running bet with myself regarding which "political commentator" (or whatever they call themselves will actually use the word "nigger" on the air first.

If CNN (was it CNN? I swear I can't remember my own last name sometimes) can get away with the "sometimes a bitch is just a bitch" thing, it seem likely that some similarly vile racist claptrap is imminent from them.

I said this to someone yesterday: all the pontificating about whether Obama can get "working class" votes is exceedingly racist, though (somewhat) veiled. The nabe I live in is at least 50% black, and they all have jobs. Normal, make-enough-to-squeak-by jobs. And they voted for Obama in droves. (Yes, it's anecdotal, but wev. I'm not an exit poll.)

So...don't *their* "working-class" votes count? I really want the pundits to just call it what it is, and say that they think Obama can't take the redneck/racist/Klan "working-class" vote. Because that's pretty fucking true. (Although I tend to think it's true of most Democratic candidates, since they tend to be in favor of more equality and shit, which scares the redneck/racist/Klan voting bloc.)

Also? The anti-Obama faction (whether Republican or the new fun Democrats against Obama) who refer to Obama supporters as having "drank the Kool-Aid" need to STEP OFF NOW. Because that means....what, exactly? That it took *drugging the voters* to make them vote for Obama, otherwise they'd never vote for Scary Black Man?

I get that it's political rhetoric, and it's going to be used in describing faceless masses. But when a friend/family member/acquaintance says it TO ME, then I have a huge problem, because wow, is THAT insulting.

Grrr.


brenda m - Jun 12, 2008 4:11:43 am PDT #2649 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I get that it's political rhetoric, and it's going to be used in describing faceless masses. But when a friend/family member/acquaintance says it TO ME, then I have a huge problem, because wow, is THAT insulting.

God, yes. I've been hearing that from a lot of unexpected sources - personnaly, I got it a lot more from Clinton supporters than any other source, and the assumption that by supporting Obama you are a) a big dupe b) a squealing fangirl and c) not a true woman/feminist had me spitting nails.

I'm hoping that with the end of the primary that trope goes away. At least on the Dem side - I don't expect anything better from the right, so it doesn't ping me as much. But coming from the left it's fucking appalling, and a reminder that our own house isn't exactly in order the way we might like to think.


msbelle - Jun 12, 2008 4:16:30 am PDT #2650 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

so News Corp (Fox) is in my building. hmmm.

There's a reason I don't watch the news. Ignorant has it's flaws, but I'm angry about enough in the world already.

I really want the pundits to just call it what it is, and say that they think Obama can't take the redneck/racist/Klan "working-class" vote.

yeah, that'll be the day. It'll be the same day that they speak angrily about welfare families and show a picture of a white family.